I would say that it is up to the priest or the parish to decide this. My suggestion would be be: "that England recover its Christian heritage." or "for the intentions of the Holy Father."
1. Well Russia hasn't yet been converted to Catholicism, so that intention's still current. 2. Before Russia became the major intention, these prayers were intended for the defence of the Church, and particularly of the Holy See, against enemies both visible and invisible. 3. I knew a traditionalist priest who used to preface the prayers with the intention - "For the defence of the church against enemies, both internal and external." 4. What about: "For the intentions of the pope; the propagation of the faith; the extirpation of heresy; the peace of all Christian kings and princes; and the liberty and exaltation of our holy mother the church."
Yes, Pius XI asked in 1929 for them to be continued for the 'Conversion of Russia', when their original intention was deemed to have been fulfilled.
The question now is, is it the conversion of an officially atheistic communist regime (1929) to a (arguably) Christan country (today), which has been accomplished, or further conversion, as davidfoster says, to Catholicism? Has Rome spoken on this? or are Pius XI's instructions themselves clear? What's the official line?
was for nearly three decades at Lancing College; where he taught Latin and Greek language and literature, was Head of Theology, and Assistant Chaplain. He has served three curacies, been a Parish Priest, and Senior Research Fellow at Pusey House in Oxford. Now incardinated into the Personal Ordinariate of our Lady of Walsingham, he has his base within the Oxford Ordinariate Group. This blog now replaces the Blog Father Hunwicke's Liturgical Notes. Its main purpose is to explore, ad mentem Summi Pontificis, the possibilitiesfor mutual enrichment between three forms of the Roman Rite: the Extraordinary Form, the Ordinary Form, and the Anglican Use. I have been told that my previous blog was disliked because of some the comments on the 'thread'. I take the point. In this blog, all comments will be moderated, and anything which is even implicitly critical of the English Hierarchy or of any member of it, will not be published.
The purpose of this ORDO is to serve the needs of both Anglicans and Roman Catholics. For the former it provides for the recitation of Morning and Evening Prayer and the celebration of Holy Communion in accordance with modern forms authorised or encouraged in the Provinces of Canterbury and York. These forms are selected, arranged, and interpreted in the the spirit of what has become generally customary in Western Christendom since the Second Vatican Council; but notes draw attention to Orthodox insights. It also provides a full Calendar according to the modern Roman Rite, together with explanatory and catechetical notes. Anglicans who prefer forms of Liturgy based on the Book of Common Prayer will find a lectionary designed for use with the BCP.
The original once graced the high altar of the church of Sancta Maria in Ara Coeli on the Capitoline Hill. A fine copy is at the centre of the great baroque reredos at S Thomas the Martyr, Oxford.
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For the Catholic Church, everywhere in the world?
I would say that it is up to the priest or the parish to decide this. My suggestion would be be: "that England recover its Christian heritage." or "for the intentions of the Holy Father."
1. Well Russia hasn't yet been converted to Catholicism, so that intention's still current.
2. Before Russia became the major intention, these prayers were intended for the defence of the Church, and particularly of the Holy See, against enemies both visible and invisible.
3. I knew a traditionalist priest who used to preface the prayers with the intention - "For the defence of the church against enemies, both internal and external."
4. What about: "For the intentions of the pope; the propagation of the faith; the extirpation of heresy; the peace of all Christian kings and princes; and the liberty and exaltation of our holy mother the church."
Eh, I thought they were for "the conversion of sinners and the exaltation of our Holy Mother the Church".
Yes, Pius XI asked in 1929 for them to be continued for the 'Conversion of Russia', when their original intention was deemed to have been fulfilled.
The question now is, is it the conversion of an officially atheistic communist regime (1929) to a (arguably) Christan country (today), which has been accomplished, or further conversion, as davidfoster says, to Catholicism? Has Rome spoken on this? or are Pius XI's instructions themselves clear? What's the official line?
If we did away with Low Mass, we wouldn't have to say the Leonine Prayers...
...for the liberation and exaltation of our Holy Mother the Church.
At my local R.C. parish, they are explicitly announced "let us pray for the conversion of Russia".
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