1 February 2016

The Anathemas Game (for those with a little Latin) UPDATE

UPDATE: It is pure coincidence that I have posted this today ... in fact, I drafted it some weeks ago ... on the same day that Bishop Schneider (Rorate) made the same point that I am in fact drawing attention to here, and a number of other very important points, in an interview.

If there is ever another Ecumenical Council, I suggest the following anathemas;
"Si quis dixerit Spiritum Sanctum Petri successoribus promissum esse, ut eo revelante novam doctrinam patefacerent, ANATHEMA SIT."
"Si quis negaverit Spiritum Sanctum Petri successoribus tantummodo promissum esse ut, eo assistente, traditam per Apostolos revelationem seu fidei depositum sancte custodirent et fideliter exponerent, ANATHEMA SIT."

These seem to be the main and most basic errors circulating in the Holy Father's intimate entourage.

Those of you who would describe yourselves as 'having a little Latin' would benefit from working out a translation of these texts. Careful readers of this blog will spot whence I have cobbled them together. 

If you've finished those two, here's another couple to try:
"Si quis dixerit Romanum Pontificem, cum ex cathedra non loquatur, nihilominus definitiones proferre quae ex sese, non autem ex consensu ecclesiae, irreformabiles sint, ANATHEMA SIT."
"Si quis negaverit Romanum Pontificem, cum ex cathedra loquatur, ea tantum infallibilitate pollere, qua divinus Redemptor Ecclesiam suam instructam esse voluerit, ANATHEMA SIT."

If you have sussed the source whence I have adapted these succinct formulations, you might like to offer some candidates of your own ex iisdem fontibus.  


Andreas Meszaros said...

Si quis dixerit, his diebus nostris sub specie novae intelligentiae recedendum esse ab illo dogmatum sensu quem sensum Ecclesia jampridem retinendum perpetuo declaravit, anathema sit.

Delia said...

No chance you might consider putting the answers upside down?

The Bones said...

Thought of you when I read the piece.
Clearly, you are read in Khazakstan!

Deacon Augustine said...

First time I've seen the word "entourage" used as a euphemism for "thoughts".

Bernard Brandt said...

As one who, in the words of Ben Jonson, has 'small Latin and less Greek', may I say that I enjoyed your several anathemata. And that's the problem with these recent Councils, if I may say: Too much bloody explaining matters, and too few periodic sentences with a rousing "Si quis dixerit" at the beginning of them, and a hearty "anathema sit" at their end. Cheers!

mark wauck said...

Deacon Augustine said...
First time I've seen the word "entourage" used as a euphemism for "thoughts".


Anonymous said...

I surprised myself how readily I understood these 'anathemas'; fairly simple Latin I'm sure, as befits such statements. But while I could think of a few more suggestions, translating into another language is much more challenging than comprehending something already expressed in that language.

Bernard Brandt said...

And, by any chance, were you cribbing from 'Pastor Aeternus' there, Fr. Hunwicke, adding the 'Si quis dixerit' at the beginning (or the 'negaverit', as the case may be), and the 'Anathema sit' at the end? Just askin'.

Vincent Uher said...

Very simply, bravo!

wolfruno said...

1) The Ordinary Magisterium of the Church is Infallible.

See the article "Must I believe it?"
By Canon George Smith Ph.D., D.D.
(Originally published in The Clergy Review)
Canon Smith was the author (inter alia) of a standard Catholic textbook
widely used pre-Vatican 2.

2) The Extraordinary Magisterium of the Church rests
(logically) on the Ordinary Magisterium,
and not the other way around.

This point is discussed in an article by Peter McDonald
which appeared in “Christian Order” December 1994
entitled “It’s not Infallible”.

When you have removed teaching which is incoherent, whatever
remains, however repugnant, must be the truth.