13 December 2023

Test

 "Were the Pope to command anything against Holy Scripture, or the articles of faith, or the truth of the Sacraments, or the commands of the natural or divine law, he ought not to be obeyed, but in such commands is to be passed over (despiciendus)."

(1) Whose words are these?

(2) Who quoted them in a well-known letter?

(3) To whom was that letter addressed?

(4) Who has used this quotation in a recently published book?

(5) What would be your preferred translation of despiciendus?

12 comments:

Richard Divozzo said...

perhaps, "contemptuously ignored" would best express despiciendus.

mps said...

I like "despised"

Walter Donat said...

Answers
1. Juan Cardinal de Torquemada (1388-1486)
2. St. John Henry Cardinal Newman
3. Divided Allegiance: To His Grace the Duke of Norfolk;
4. Fr. Kevin L. Flannery, S.J. : The Faith Once for All Delivered: Doctrinal Authority in Catholic Theology; 2023
5. Despiciendus: to be looked down upon, despised, or distained

Walter Donat said...

Answers
1. Juan Cardinal de Torquemada (1388-1486)
2. St. John Henry Cardinal Newman
3. Divided Allegiance: To His Grace the Duke of Norfolk;
4. Fr. Kevin L. Flannery, S.J. : The Faith Once for All Delivered: Doctrinal Authority in Catholic Theology; 2023
5. Despiciendus: to be looked down upon, despised, or distained

Albertus said...

The words are by Turrencremata in "Summa de Ecclesia". Answers to the other questions i know not.

Matthew said...

1. John of Torquemada
2.J.H.Newman
3. The (then) Duke of Norfolk
4. Aidan Nichols
5. I scored a D in Latin O-level in 1964, so can't comment with any authority, though the note of contempt should perhaps be conveyed as well as the 'passing over'.

Pater Ambrosius said...

disregarded or passed over

J.S. Ahmad said...

While we're on the subject, do you know the opinion of that obscure, relatively unimportant canonist, Gratian?

Si Papa suae et fraternae salutis negligens reprehenditur inutilis et remissus in operibus suis, et insuper a bono taciturnus, quod magis officit sibi et omnibus, nichilominus innumerabiles populos cateruatim secum ducit, primo mancipio gehennae cum ipso plagis multis in eternum uapulaturus. Huius culpas istic redarguere presumit mortalium nullus, quia cunctos ipse iudicaturus a nemine est iudicandus, nisi deprehendatur a fide deuius; pro cuius perpetuo statu uniuersitas fidelium tanto instantius orat, quanto suam salutem post Deum ex illius incolumitate animaduertunt propensius pendere. (
Distinctio 40, c.6)

The Ancient Professor said...

I don’t know the answer to any of the questions.

Iudex said...

The answers to the questions are

1 John of Torquemada

2 St John Henry Newman

3 The Duke of Norfolk

4 The admirable Fr Aidan Nichols ( A great pity that it is not this Nichols who occupies the See of Westminster)

5 I cannot improve on "contemptuously ignore".

Grant Milburn said...

"Motu? What motu?"

Matthew F Kluk said...

The pronouncement from Rome's quondam Holy Office today about blessings reminded me of your post Father. Contemptuous silence or loud defences of Faith and morals will both be met with abuse from the Holy Father who brought us Pachamama, "Who am I to judge?" and instantaneous de-bishopizing procedures of good bishops.