tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post9158478099587675511..comments2024-03-29T09:39:50.604+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Sex abuseFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-44106921701048799512016-02-10T10:45:38.657+00:002016-02-10T10:45:38.657+00:00'Bishop Peter Ball began his "bishoping&q...<i>'Bishop Peter Ball began his "bishoping" in Chichester diocese - is "bishop" a verb?'</i><br />In that sentence, obviously yes.Little Black Sambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699227938165106710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-40948958445650402952016-02-09T20:44:48.795+00:002016-02-09T20:44:48.795+00:00what does, "The bishop is double-gaited mean?...what does, "The bishop is double-gaited mean?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-21153012108985923282016-02-09T13:03:13.039+00:002016-02-09T13:03:13.039+00:00In the case of Maciel, Joseph Bottum, one-time edi...In the case of Maciel, Joseph Bottum, one-time editor of First Things, in that same journal, wrote that Cardinal Ratzinger when Prefect of the CDF, had judged the evidence of wrong-doing against Maciel to be credible, and that he had argued for action against Maciel by Pope JP2, but that Cdl. Sodano (not yet of unhappy memory)was somehow in league with Maciel and protected Maciel, fighting ChrisBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07371187001977645056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-37698749057735754152016-02-09T09:52:07.048+00:002016-02-09T09:52:07.048+00:00Concerning Dr Bell, I think that, if you read the ...Concerning Dr Bell, I think that, if you read the account the victim gave to the press, you will agree that it rings true. In particular I was impressed that she describes Dr Bell in apron and gaiters, while clearly not knowing what they are. She gave her account because she was distressed about not being believed. I know from personal contact with victims of clerical sexual abuse that this is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-6044675278457098642016-02-09T08:57:56.561+00:002016-02-09T08:57:56.561+00:00Father, I wonder if you will permit me to muse a ...Father, I wonder if you will permit me to muse a little further on this question? It seems that human nature, being flawed, invariably generates societies in which one or other group of persons are protected and given a free pass, for behaviour which would not be tolerated in others, simply because of <i>who they are</i>; the so-called "aristocratic model". I am thinking of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-50348140510898508092016-02-09T05:26:43.018+00:002016-02-09T05:26:43.018+00:00Bishop Peter Ball began his "bishoping" ...Bishop Peter Ball began his "bishoping" in Chichester diocese - is "bishop" a verb?Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09751778941959410058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-21981811294097222012016-02-09T00:24:21.133+00:002016-02-09T00:24:21.133+00:00"... our Holy Father might have reached for t... "... our Holy Father might have reached for the term narcissistic". Indeed.Lepantohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487748842744745860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-477412705653811032016-02-08T23:53:31.597+00:002016-02-08T23:53:31.597+00:00@Charlesdawson. Fr Hunwicke is not the Catholic Ch...@Charlesdawson. Fr Hunwicke is not the Catholic Church. Throughout this blog he speaks with (I would say excessive) respect of the CofE. He is certainly not favourably comparing the behaviour of Catholic with that of Anglican clergy. "I don't think the Church can congratulate itself for locking such a stable door so long after the horse had bolted!" Where does the Catholic Church doTee Pee Gee Effhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12027661501344173102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-86775159585649548952016-02-08T21:33:25.019+00:002016-02-08T21:33:25.019+00:00My point was, posters above, the damage that Macie...My point was, posters above, the damage that Maciel was able to inflict <i>while he was being protected by very senior clergy indeed</i>. Poor Pope Benedict himself was prevented, while Card. Ratzinger, from stopping this for years. I don't think the Church can congratulate itself for locking such a stable door so long after the horse had bolted!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-30342270436954344382016-02-08T19:13:13.195+00:002016-02-08T19:13:13.195+00:00Charlesdawson said:
"If we are going to talk...Charlesdawson said:<br /><br />"If we are going to talk about stubborn and gullible protection of evil men by the great and good, the Catholic Church needs to look first at the beam in its own eye: Marcial Maciel."<br /><br />Have you not been keeping up? One of the first things Pope Benedict did when he was elected was to go after Maciel. He had tried while he was Prefect of the CDF Ruarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10863187619652339133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-65990305819738879482016-02-08T18:18:03.296+00:002016-02-08T18:18:03.296+00:00I would say that the appointment in Rome was done ...I would say that the appointment in Rome was done as are so many decisions in the Church today, without prudence. They are done I think with a false sense of sensuum fidei. It is just as Fr has explained about the anglican bishopAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-9234685601730045252016-02-08T18:09:35.248+00:002016-02-08T18:09:35.248+00:00Charlesdawson, we already punished that priest. Charlesdawson, we already punished that priest. Matthew Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00958673318312786618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-65263448742448901172016-02-08T15:27:57.397+00:002016-02-08T15:27:57.397+00:00I agree with your conclusions, Father. I am regula...I agree with your conclusions, Father. I am regularly put off when any cleric gets much media adulation or appears to revel in it. We have recent examples of this here in the US, in Ireland and, of course, even in Rome with the Maciel debacle.<br /><br />The last case may even be advanced in demonstrating the fallibility of Popes in day to day matters, as it was stated by those in the know that GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-16220682451691053352016-02-08T13:32:06.217+00:002016-02-08T13:32:06.217+00:00If we are going to talk about stubborn and gullibl...If we are going to talk about stubborn and gullible protection of evil men by the great and good, the Catholic Church needs to look first at the beam in its own eye: Marcial Maciel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-75523832733999987432016-02-08T13:25:36.301+00:002016-02-08T13:25:36.301+00:00My understanding, Father, was that Bell's accu...My understanding, Father, was that Bell's accuser was a woman, and that the complaint related to an alleged incident about seventy years ago.<br /><br />In Ball's case, something was certainly known or suspected many years ago, but that "something" was the prevalence of homosexuality in his circle, which the Grauniad, for example, has studiously ignored in its unpleasant Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16365402242052425654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-31381984218610536562016-02-08T12:58:37.385+00:002016-02-08T12:58:37.385+00:00Idols with feet of clay, indeed. Well said!!Idols with feet of clay, indeed. Well said!!Richard Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07177146645376672689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-58893106782090033262016-02-08T12:47:06.806+00:002016-02-08T12:47:06.806+00:00Bell has been accused of offences against a five y...Bell has been accused of offences against a five year old girl, rather than an under-age boy.Jacob Hickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435082163759225318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-59518626860825940242016-02-08T12:37:41.640+00:002016-02-08T12:37:41.640+00:00Regarding Bell, see the Bp. of Durham's interv...Regarding Bell, see the Bp. of Durham's intervention in the House of Lords on 28th Jan, when he said (with regards to C.ofE.'s official response to the allegations against Bell) "if noble Lords read very carefully the statements that have been put out, they will see that there has been no declaration that we are convinced that this took place." In other words, they used the wordAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com