tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post8950954113666796653..comments2024-03-29T01:24:45.251+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Book SalesFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-80248679612355155742010-12-03T04:16:03.744+00:002010-12-03T04:16:03.744+00:00Some charity, please: I often think in this contex...Some charity, please: I often think in this context of an Anglican family I know in Hobart - the mother and son entered the Catholic Church, the daughter the Russian Orthodox (Mrs having been brought up Anglo-Catholic, and having passed this on), while the father, a good man of moderate churchmanship, was left with literally nowhere to go, having been driven away from the Anglican Cathedral by Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-36123383685090173982010-12-03T03:15:22.550+00:002010-12-03T03:15:22.550+00:00It's actually more like they themselves don...It's actually more like they themselves don't know. It's a real hodge-podge group that is only united in what they don't want: WO and Rome.<br /><br />As we've seen with the Continuum and now ACNA in the States, that doesn't get you anywhere.<br /><br />They've got to be for something, not merely against.Father Bartushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00015662424459242082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-25177052404169288522010-12-03T02:03:47.051+00:002010-12-03T02:03:47.051+00:00"It's all really very simple..."
I t..."It's all really very simple..."<br />I think you're right, Jeff. Others, however, appear to disagree. Perhaps they're nobly keeping shtum about exactly why, and what they're going to do about it, because they don't want to overshadow the ordinariate's infancy.Enrico Dantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12225046023754109591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-51956401713916554152010-12-03T01:27:01.207+00:002010-12-03T01:27:01.207+00:00Hum, more talk of this wretched idea of 'submi...Hum, more talk of this wretched idea of 'submission' above. It really is completely the wrong word to use, and probably belies a wrong attitude which for some leads to the wrong decision. My own experience was one of a welcoming and loving embrace, much like that recieved by the prodigal returning to his father. The son had gone off, done his own thing, had a great time, but ultimatley jeffdowniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04598727263238568752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-4708876550310974372010-12-02T13:53:56.530+00:002010-12-02T13:53:56.530+00:00fully understand why Rome might not be "an op...fully understand why Rome might not be "an option" for Catholic-minded Anglicans, but SWISH? Why not Orthodoxy? Or Anba Seraphim and his Brittano-Coptic church (in full communion with Pope Shenouda)? Or Canon Lloyd's Old Catholic group?<br /><br />I mean, is not any conscientiously-acceptable "option" preferable to remaining in a body that has either forfeited its "William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634494183165592707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-13372550888806441332010-12-02T13:51:10.779+00:002010-12-02T13:51:10.779+00:00Steve, I would love to agree with you, so let'...Steve, I would love to agree with you, so let's say I do for now. <br /><br />Whatever Swish's motivations are, it has to be honest about why 'submission to Rome' is not an option for its members. And, in return, its members have to be honest about why it is not an option for them.<br /><br />And I mean, really honest.Enrico Dantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12225046023754109591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-569344327274489272010-12-02T13:36:41.759+00:002010-12-02T13:36:41.759+00:00I don't think you're actually correct abou...I don't think you're actually correct about SWISH's motivation. I think it is aiming to provide a long-term home for those who stand where you do on women priests and bishops but for whom, for whatever reason, submission to Rome (via the Ordinariate or otherwise) is not an option.<br /><br />(Howbeit, if you had said that you thought it would fail in the attempt, I would not have Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09367545445575135099noreply@blogger.com