tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post888811276198949462..comments2024-03-29T01:24:45.251+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Terrorists ... or Adrians?Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-89301459988338381862017-04-04T13:39:18.637+01:002017-04-04T13:39:18.637+01:00"I'm not sure I agree with my corresponde...<i>"I'm not sure I agree with my correspondent who is glad that Adrian ended up dead. If I were in Security, I would prefer to have such individuals alive and interrogable. Corpses are so often taciturn, even if water-boarded."</i><br /><br />Not quite wrong.<br /><br />I think I said the same after death of Mohammed Merah.<br /><br />You see, his radical animosity against certain Hans Georg Lundahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055583255516264955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-86611430532057923732017-03-25T18:56:50.579+00:002017-03-25T18:56:50.579+00:00@Deacon Augustine,
I agree with your take on the ...@Deacon Augustine,<br /><br />I agree with your take on the matters.<br /><br />@Thomas,<br /><br />You say: "Islam is a religion not a race." I agree in part. <br /><br />'Islam' is not a race. It is however, and to my mind, not a 'religion' primarily. It is a 'political' system underpinned by a veneer of hedonistic theology and which advocates mindless violenceLiam Ronanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01376666519733160167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-33044956984178279072017-03-25T18:27:32.741+00:002017-03-25T18:27:32.741+00:00"... the majority of Muslims in the UK ... ca...<i>"... the majority of Muslims in the UK ... came a long time ago from the colonies..."</i><br />Not true; look it up.<br />In opposition to some grumpy contributions above, I thought the article very funny and apt.Little Black Sambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699227938165106710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-53436231975904233192017-03-25T16:23:37.656+00:002017-03-25T16:23:37.656+00:00Sadie Vacantist: cf. the origin of the word "...Sadie Vacantist: cf. the origin of the word "assassin".vetusta ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454059029260192711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-46847277255186376912017-03-25T11:46:28.505+00:002017-03-25T11:46:28.505+00:00I second the howl of the Banshee.I second the howl of the Banshee.Michael Leahyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15044897013849386271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-49730513927853906092017-03-25T10:14:01.902+00:002017-03-25T10:14:01.902+00:00Of course you are correct to identify that it is n...Of course you are correct to identify that it is not immigration per se which leads to such terror, Fr. However, neither can the cause be simply laid at the door of secularism. The Christians of Iraq and Syria have lived in safety until recently precisely because of the rule of a secular power.<br /><br />The real root cause of this particular brand of terrorism can be squarely lain at the doorDeacon Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549825303646357455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-18852256459823892372017-03-25T10:12:19.336+00:002017-03-25T10:12:19.336+00:00Islam is a religion not a race. That is Fr. Hunwic...Islam is a religion not a race. That is Fr. Hunwicke's point, it seems to me. It is ideas and beliefs that matter, not what country someone was born in. There are an increasing number of 'native' converts to Islam from the post-Christian masses Europe. It promises doctrinal certainty and a strong moral framework to those who are lost in the spiritual vacuum of secularism. Of course, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-80093856876511515722017-03-25T05:40:17.056+00:002017-03-25T05:40:17.056+00:00When things are really bad, black humor among frie...When things are really bad, black humor among friends is a survival response to relieve horrendous stress, sadness, and terror. That is why surgeons joke in the operating room, paramedics joke as they race death, and soldiers joke in the trenches. It is an appropriate response to the wrongness of our fallen world - to laugh at it and thus calm ourselves to face it.<br /><br />I have always been Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-58280473790118628082017-03-25T00:25:06.794+00:002017-03-25T00:25:06.794+00:00I hardly find our hosts comments offensive in the ...I hardly find our hosts comments offensive in the way some here do. I wonder at it. Rather than peck at Father, we should be a great deal more prickly about the people who continue to insist that to stop the immigration flow is somehow "bigoted" or "mean-spirited". Save your annoyance for those who are literally bringing in the means of your own destruction in the temporal Kathleen1031https://www.blogger.com/profile/10201084623185206141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-23730315134928343762017-03-24T23:25:55.419+00:002017-03-24T23:25:55.419+00:00The fact that the terrorist was born in the UK isn...The fact that the terrorist was born in the UK isn't really surprising, since it's quite well-established by now that second- and third-generation immigrants are more likely to be radicalised than first-generation.<br /><br />This usually gets used as an argument for immigration, which strikes me as completely backward, as it implies that, even if we're successful in screening currentGaiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13683100808581061355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-415889864304662932017-03-24T21:55:31.858+00:002017-03-24T21:55:31.858+00:00Peter Hitchens usually makes the point that these ...Peter Hitchens usually makes the point that these lone wolf terrorists are often drug fuelled. It was no surprise to learn that the attacker was obsessed with the gym and bodybuilding. Gymnasiums are notorious for the distribution of steroids and unregulated "supplements".<br /><br />I do agree that the jocular tone of this blog item is inappropriate.Sadie Vacantisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04823532366874114366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-21262871773111855962017-03-24T20:48:36.899+00:002017-03-24T20:48:36.899+00:00I thought the point was well made. Why do we toler...I thought the point was well made. Why do we tolerate right wing idiots who dishonour the victims of terror by inveighing against immigrants? At the same time I think that we can peacably dissent from the spurious "values" forced upon us by the government and not be a danger to people.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-30771937191573466592017-03-24T19:29:23.962+00:002017-03-24T19:29:23.962+00:00Considering that the majority of Muslims in the UK...Considering that the majority of Muslims in the UK as well as France came a long time ago from the colonies, I would say that this is the late revenge of the 19th century. Don't blame the poor Syrians who flee Islamism (and, btw, are in a deep crisis of identity as well as faith)!<br />And to all those who take issue with this blog entry, there is a quite simple and elegant solution to their Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983955289507752980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-85960932526969304162017-03-24T18:42:03.688+00:002017-03-24T18:42:03.688+00:00@Barry Hudd
Is La vita è bella by Benigni also &q...@Barry Hudd<br /><br />Is La vita è bella by Benigni also "bad taste to put it mildly".<br /><br />Though I must admit that the form of our Host's post seemed awkward to me and the point not very obvious.<br /><br />I did not dislike as much as you did though. Maybe it's the distance I have - both geographical and in terms of experiences.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15733894946188847225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-15180948757587970572017-03-24T18:09:42.718+00:002017-03-24T18:09:42.718+00:00@ Barry Hudd,
There was a spot of humour to be fo...@ Barry Hudd,<br /><br />There was a spot of humour to be found in the streets, pubs, and dance halls of London during the most intense bombings of WWII. A few people died there at the time. Glenn Miller's Band actually performed during a buzz-bomb attack. Liam Ronanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01376666519733160167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-5191792873007430862017-03-24T17:25:06.220+00:002017-03-24T17:25:06.220+00:00Your point is irrelevant. You are using humour in ...Your point is irrelevant. You are using humour in a situation where innocent people were killed and wounded. It is thoroughly bad taste to put it mildly. As a survivor of a London terrorist bomb attack l obviously feel more for the victims than you do. It is not a laughing matter. You should be ashamed of yourself.Barry Huddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12341518626111394628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-76900600156210125362017-03-24T17:12:58.711+00:002017-03-24T17:12:58.711+00:00I thought my point would be fairly obvious to the ...I thought my point would be fairly obvious to the sort of people who read my blog. There are people in my country who have been persuaded that our terrorist problem is a product of immigrant aliens. I think that is a gross and dangerous misunderstanding. <br /><br />Furthermore, I think that the root of many of our problems is the elimination by secularism of our genuine cultural and religious Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-964487407427618262017-03-24T16:31:34.545+00:002017-03-24T16:31:34.545+00:00I have no idea what your point was, Father. As for...I have no idea what your point was, Father. As for Islam in Britain or any other Western, or indeed any other currently non Islamic state, two of its inherent features make it incompatible with any of them. They are, I think, undeniable and essential. <br /><br />First, Islam is a theocracy, that is, a complete God-delivered legal and social system designed for the administration of territory andOreamnosAmericanushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602268350813211243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-86255805834100646512017-03-24T16:29:41.934+00:002017-03-24T16:29:41.934+00:00This is hardly a fit subject for misplaced attempt...This is hardly a fit subject for misplaced attempts at jocularity.Michael Gormallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10029418775349258302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-19922928615999765422017-03-24T14:25:34.347+00:002017-03-24T14:25:34.347+00:00Possibly your wife has also been radicalized into ...Possibly your wife has also been radicalized into a version of a religion from the desert East? Has traveled the road you describe ? Knows your schedule and whereabouts ? May have purchased the "kitchen" knives herself, surreptitiously, one by one, although occasionally in small sets....<br />Flowers might be in order....Fred W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02457297711864902911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-90032773584955898602017-03-24T13:41:16.551+00:002017-03-24T13:41:16.551+00:00It was easily predictable that P.M. May would decl...It was easily predictable that P.M. May would declaim that the Jihadi was not actualising the commands of the Koran or imitating the putative "perfect man" Mahomet.<br /><br />Liberals will respond to this Death by Diversity by insisting that the Mahometan who killed the Brits is not representative of real Mahometanism and claim that only more Mahometan immigration into England can Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-37779643020871614992017-03-24T12:29:57.858+00:002017-03-24T12:29:57.858+00:00I once read, Father, that a number of terrorists a...I once read, Father, that a number of terrorists ate bread when they were children. This fellow, per the Telegraph, was quite the fan of football as a youth. Bread and circuses. One never knows.Liam Ronanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01376666519733160167noreply@blogger.com