tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post8768421947591381392..comments2024-03-28T12:23:53.718+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Only for creative philologistsFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-55270324994702461272021-09-22T23:04:39.394+01:002021-09-22T23:04:39.394+01:00FrJustin
Thanks for that wonderful Chesterton quo...FrJustin<br /><br />Thanks for that wonderful Chesterton quotation! I suppose the masculine "guy" connoting nothing more than another human has always been the norm in North America. Maybe it was the gendered nuances seeping through from our francophone brothers that led me to my initial view of the term. Mario Josipovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11038990937345581165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-58925297647298755472021-09-21T19:42:55.686+01:002021-09-21T19:42:55.686+01:00Mario, speaking as a North American, I suspect tha...Mario, speaking as a North American, I suspect that this use of "guys" is confined to our continent. Others would be more inclined to use "bloke", "chap", or (in Australia) "mate". <br /><br />On a visit to America, G.K. Chesterton observed:<br />"An American friend congratulated me on the impression I produced on a lady interviewer, observing, 'frjustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109539584303934489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-21147314930332822922021-09-21T18:03:59.805+01:002021-09-21T18:03:59.805+01:00Dear Belfry Bat. Wilt (probably more likely to re...Dear Belfry Bat. Wilt (probably more likely to refer to the tired behaviour of a lettuce than the future desire of the second-person) in London is most definitely pronounced "wìw", (with a short 'i', which punctuation my computer will not offer me). As in "a wìw:id le:iss."<br /><br />Of course a good East End Catholic boy might end his contribution in the Box with &Josephus Muris Saliensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10888638147153175697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-83183443356322774612021-09-20T21:46:40.300+01:002021-09-20T21:46:40.300+01:00I welcome anyone else on this wonderful blog comme...I welcome anyone else on this wonderful blog commenting on the gendered shift of calling a group of teenagers or adults as "you guys", including if the "guys" are "gals" or even older folks. <br /><br />I could be wrong, but no girl or boy (in the late 70s) would call out to a group of girls "hey you guys". We learned in school that "ils regardent laMario Josipovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11038990937345581165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-8955184381460905852021-09-20T14:36:03.233+01:002021-09-20T14:36:03.233+01:00The attendees at many of the meetings I have had t...The attendees at many of the meetings I have had to attend could well be described as borees. (Anyone familiar with Australia will know the reference.)PMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06144651697262763099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-34179544041263402482021-09-20T11:28:14.372+01:002021-09-20T11:28:14.372+01:00Not weighed? As in best not weighed into that disc...Not weighed? As in best not weighed into that discussion.Ceile Dehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00231797721908473008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-68346341023480976892021-09-20T10:29:42.335+01:002021-09-20T10:29:42.335+01:00Antarctica is good Italian as in Vaughan Williams&...Antarctica is good Italian as in Vaughan Williams' seventh symphony, his Sinfonia Antartica.Stephen Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10035020087162868502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-3538484536240677132021-09-20T07:44:05.523+01:002021-09-20T07:44:05.523+01:00The -ee seems to be a way to render the french par...The -ee seems to be a way to render the french participle english. Actually, it should be written -i, as in menti = someone who's lied to.Friedlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08510300279004243856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-54932838272246997952021-09-20T01:42:29.154+01:002021-09-20T01:42:29.154+01:00Some say that mentee goes back at least as far as ...Some say that mentee goes back at least as far as 1958: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/menteeKenneth DiLorenzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16060117017239265366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-66877825953949370632021-09-19T22:19:04.444+01:002021-09-19T22:19:04.444+01:00... Can Father clarify, was the first syll'bł ...... Can Father clarify, was the first syll'bł a straight "mê"? Or perhaps slightly nasalized... er... borowing from the Poles, "męʔǝr"?<br /><br />Conjecturing: ordinary "n" and "t" are in identical tongue positions, the difference being that one is voiced and nasalized, the other is devoiced and, when audible, plosive. If one <i>could</i> freely say &Belfry Bathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514867101036143597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-11516916854953291592021-09-19T19:05:39.092+01:002021-09-19T19:05:39.092+01:00On P S (3): in English-speaking monasteries of nun...On P S (3): in English-speaking monasteries of nuns, the one who leads the singing is not a Cantor. She is the Cantrix, thank you very much!frjustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109539584303934489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-18628695187237546822021-09-19T18:43:39.723+01:002021-09-19T18:43:39.723+01:00I assume the -ee suffix derives by analogy from Fr...I assume the -ee suffix derives by analogy from French past participles and implies the recipient of an action. But now we have horrors like “attendee” and I once saw a notice on a bus proclaiming that there were only permitted “ x standees”!vetusta ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454059029260192711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-9968575727550192842021-09-19T18:13:28.778+01:002021-09-19T18:13:28.778+01:00The OED has a long entry under -ee as a suffix. It...The OED has a long entry under -ee as a suffix. It says it "was orig. an adaptation of the -é of certain AF. pa. pples., which were used as sbs....<br /><br />"The use of this suffix in law terms has been freq. imitated in the formation of humorous (chiefly) nonce-words, as educatee, laughee, sendee, denoting the personal object of the verbs from which they are formed." frjustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109539584303934489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-86375894279187948072021-09-19T16:20:27.967+01:002021-09-19T16:20:27.967+01:00In the world of business, if you attend a meeting...In the world of business, if you attend a meeting, you are an 'attendee'. <br /><br />I think the passive ending is based on a general assumption that you are not attending of your own volition. william arthurshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16447813388196156894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-91883008574789108212021-09-19T14:10:44.210+01:002021-09-19T14:10:44.210+01:00I once heard a person weighing himself on a bathro...I once heard a person weighing himself on a bathroom scale referred to as "the weighee".frjustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109539584303934489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-64500047657824143072021-09-19T11:14:53.142+01:002021-09-19T11:14:53.142+01:00..... and Fowlee?..... and Fowlee?wonastowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11180184746864757704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-8552428075978733542021-09-19T10:20:37.473+01:002021-09-19T10:20:37.473+01:00This somehow reminds me of the unlovely pronunciat...This somehow reminds me of the unlovely pronunciation of the proper name of the Southernmost Continent as Anta:tica (while for those speaking non-rhotic dialects, the "r" is silent, it is the omission of the first "c" that remains nonstandard, though sadly not reprobated).Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-27488844477732723372011-04-06T11:38:43.670+01:002011-04-06T11:38:43.670+01:00Mel A Noma?Mel A Noma?Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-3410239360521629412011-04-06T10:17:19.718+01:002011-04-06T10:17:19.718+01:00The p-in-c of the eponymous church in Oxford is wo...The p-in-c of the eponymous church in Oxford is wont to describe St Mary Magdalen(e) as the first Spice Girl.AndrewWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00196842185913965725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-22307717648097677322011-04-05T22:05:46.516+01:002011-04-05T22:05:46.516+01:00Mel B, Mel C. Am I alone in finding the absence of...Mel B, Mel C. Am I alone in finding the absence of a Mel A disconcerting? These people could at least emerge in sequence.Sadie Vacantisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04823532366874114366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-27372202627849678042011-04-05T14:40:42.962+01:002011-04-05T14:40:42.962+01:00"Mel C" = "Sporty Spice", appa..."Mel C" = "Sporty Spice", apparently...<br /><br />Good recollection Father. Obviously you were well 'instructed' back then!<br /><br />This was not from personal knowledge, however. Google does come in handy betimes.GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.com