tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post7891471070399995006..comments2024-03-28T20:30:48.788+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Naming the BishopFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-86228190995557017652009-11-20T22:19:28.337+00:002009-11-20T22:19:28.337+00:00Excuse the typo above: it should be Roman, not Toa...Excuse the typo above: it should be Roman, not Toamn (which appears to be Gaelic).Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-39296907640924714292009-11-20T22:16:52.380+00:002009-11-20T22:16:52.380+00:00Chris,
True, that is the 1549; but the Scottish r...Chris,<br /><br />True, that is the 1549; but the Scottish rearrangement (which derives from the 1718 Nonjurors' liturgy) is superior:<br /><br />1. Prayer of Consecration;<br />2. Prayer of Memorial and Oblation;<br />3. Prayer for the Church.<br /><br />By putting the Prayer for the Church last, and including the words "accept our Oblation", it makes it clear that the Eucharist isJoshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-3651043220122400652009-11-20T18:45:54.657+00:002009-11-20T18:45:54.657+00:00Joshua - or Preface, Prayer for the Church, Prayer...Joshua - or Preface, Prayer for the Church, Prayer of Consecration, Prayer of Memorial and Oblation - the original 1549 arrangement. Omitting the "without any eleuacion" rubric, of course.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15967143115506520306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-91958285458879678482009-11-20T15:03:54.806+00:002009-11-20T15:03:54.806+00:00Fr. H, that was nicely and succinctly put.
I'...Fr. H, that was nicely and succinctly put.<br /><br />I've always wondered myself about the connotations of "episcopus" vs. "antistes". Are they equivalent latinized-Greek and Latin?<br /><br />Jacob Hicks, I doubt that, in parishes of the ordinariate, there is any reason <i>not</i> to include the name of the Ordinary of the Ordinariate after the local Bishop, especially Michael McDonoughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17384055883425252489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-67399514719988811922009-11-20T12:50:40.229+00:002009-11-20T12:50:40.229+00:00Joshua, Common Worship Prayer ... E (?) has square...Joshua, Common Worship Prayer ... E (?) has square brackets which would permit the prayer for the Church, Bp of Rome and Abp of Birmingham/wherever (presumably he'd be in there rather than the Ordinary) to be included.Jacob Hickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435082163759225318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-33104966320155000252009-11-20T11:49:27.920+00:002009-11-20T11:49:27.920+00:00This has interesting consequences for any Anglican...This has interesting consequences for any Anglican Canon to be inserted in the upcoming Roman Rite Anglican Use Missal (B.D.W. 2.0) - so far as I can see, the only way to do so would be to follow the Scottish 1764 Communion Office, and have the Prayer of Consecration immediately followed by the Prayer of Memorial and Oblation, with the Prayer for the Church tacked on at the end, rather than read Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-48453754065945762592009-11-20T11:45:20.132+00:002009-11-20T11:45:20.132+00:00I recall reading somewhere that Rome, when asked a...I recall reading somewhere that Rome, when asked after the Council to approve various new Eucharistic Prayers supernumerary to the four in the new Missal, proposed certain criteria to be met by candidate texts, such as a requirement to express ecclesiastical unity by mentioning the name of the Pope and bishop, and by commemorating the Blessed Virgin and the saints.<br /><br />(I take it that thisJoshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.com