tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post7719887904108402476..comments2024-03-29T14:32:13.886+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-69271486461612668892016-01-03T10:05:25.974+00:002016-01-03T10:05:25.974+00:00Who is the vicar of Christ other than his faithful...Who is the vicar of Christ other than his faithful and wise steward?<br /><br />And Peter said to him: Lord, dost thou speak this parable to us, or likewise to all? And the Lord said: Who (thinkest thou) is the faithful and wise steward, whom his lord setteth over his family, to give them their measure of wheat in due season?StrongmanBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11576053748129020949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-41558805290802703302015-10-19T12:06:45.038+01:002015-10-19T12:06:45.038+01:00Second hint: cf. also George Edmundson, *The Churc...<br />Second hint: cf. also George Edmundson, *The Church in Rome in the First Century (The Bampton Lectures for 1913);* London, 1913: Longmans, Green & Co. Edmundson (1848-1930), a one-time Fellow of Brasenose, was one of those amazing clerical polymaths which on occasion graced the Church of England, writing as he did about the history of the Nethernands, John Milton's Dutch literary William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634494183165592707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-91227450750684251812015-10-18T22:55:44.766+01:002015-10-18T22:55:44.766+01:00Hint: in his article on the "Epistola Clement...<br />Hint: in his article on the "Epistola Clementis" Ullmann holds as key this passage from St. Irenaeus' "Against Heresies:"<br /><br />“Themeliosantes oun kai oikodomesantes oi makarioi apostoloi ten ekklesian Lino ten tes episkopes leitourgian enecheirisan. Toutou tou Linou Paulos en tais pros Timotheon epistolais memnetai. Diadechetai de auton Anenkletos; meta toutonWilliam Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634494183165592707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-52885127463831391282015-10-18T16:39:49.230+01:002015-10-18T16:39:49.230+01:00It is of course one thing for me to make claims ab...It is of course one thing for me to make claims about who and what I am; it is something else completely to have others accept those claims; and then it is yet a third act for all to live and work in concert with these claims as normative for the community.<br /><br />To Prof. Tighe's comments, that the great Pope St. Leo the Great put forth an embryonic construct of claims that his Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12833345391579579562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-2753898737163098662015-10-18T02:30:39.830+01:002015-10-18T02:30:39.830+01:00I am a bit confused regarding the comment of Ben o...I am a bit confused regarding the comment of Ben of the Bayou. I understood the ability of a pope to 'dissolve a valid, consummated, natural marriage in favor of one of the parties contracting a sacramental marriage', as the Pauline privilege, and not the Petrine privilege, as Ben has stated. I have to admit I may have been wrong more than once or twice in my life....<br /><br />Mr. Mary Mary Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15177771196355631149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-34914215938863365572015-10-18T00:26:58.982+01:002015-10-18T00:26:58.982+01:00"If one has misgivings about using the title ..."If one has misgivings about using the title 'Vicar of Christ', might not that title which has been accepted for centuries and which describes accurately the reality : 'SUCCESSOR of Saint Peter, Prince of the Apostles' be used ? I don't myself find it at all helpful to attempt to revive a title which centuries ago ceased commonly to be used, namely 'VICAR of Saint William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634494183165592707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-60194878810375558712015-10-17T18:27:23.852+01:002015-10-17T18:27:23.852+01:00(continues)
Finally, please kindly permit me to ...(continues) <br /><br />Finally, please kindly permit me to disagree with the (no doubt otherwise) fine work of the scholar Olivier Clement. In the spirit of St Ignatius of Antioch, second Successor of S Peter in that See, it seems to me that the Saint's Letter to the Smyrneans proves sufficiently enough that there is no Roman Church, properly speaking (or Church in any other city), without Ben of the Bayouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07300583569226801488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-31507405611826731522015-10-17T18:27:04.146+01:002015-10-17T18:27:04.146+01:00Dear and Revd Father Hunwicke,
I thank you for yo...Dear and Revd Father Hunwicke,<br /><br />I thank you for your lucid and well-grounded explanation of your usage of Vicar of S Peter, which has appeared here lately with increasing frequency. One wonders whether current events are influencing the frequency of its use. No doubt it is a correct title, having been used frequently in the first millennium of the Church's life. Yet, I too regretBen of the Bayouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07300583569226801488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-35539868149201258122015-10-17T12:35:31.883+01:002015-10-17T12:35:31.883+01:00Thank you, kind pastor.Thank you, kind pastor.DMGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06206797202576000858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-44116014921675876702015-10-17T04:09:57.304+01:002015-10-17T04:09:57.304+01:00If one has misgivings about using the title "...If one has misgivings about using the title " Vicar of Christ ", might not that title which has been accepted for centuries and which describes accurately the reality : "SUCCESSOR of Saint Peter, Prince of the Apostles" be used ? I don't myself find it at all helpful to attempt to revive a title which centuries ago ceased commonly to be used, namely " VICAR of Saint The Saint Bede Studiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02694483852852112838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-84620068440278973132015-10-17T00:54:17.062+01:002015-10-17T00:54:17.062+01:00I prefer the title "Keeper of the Keys"....I prefer the title "Keeper of the Keys". It emphasises the Popes role as guardian of Truth, his responsibility to and the limits on him to ensure that Scripture, Revelation, Tradition, all as expressed in the Magisterium of the Church are guarded and kept safe free form decay or disorder.Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-91377331513071489492015-10-16T19:55:49.978+01:002015-10-16T19:55:49.978+01:00Thank you for a most enlightening post. It is hist...Thank you for a most enlightening post. It is historically sensitive posts like this, combined with the humor of "some Roman lawyer with the improbable name Pio Vito Pinto" that made me miss your blogging so dreadfully there for a while. Melindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09154564662751252064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-39267010428164151892015-10-16T18:22:03.845+01:002015-10-16T18:22:03.845+01:00I have been writing a series on the problems of &q...I have been writing a series on the problems of "ultra-ultramontanism" as you put it. I'm happy to say that we make several of the same points. <br /><br />http://paraphasic.blogspot.com/p/a-critique-of-contemporary.htmlTamarindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920357855016976985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-83796668680363149682015-10-16T17:38:11.434+01:002015-10-16T17:38:11.434+01:00This is obviously not relevant to the post, but I ...This is obviously not relevant to the post, but I have been wanting to ask: is the W in Hunwicke silent or not?The Flying Dutchmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10057552757013226176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-7747023873384788682015-10-16T17:01:05.686+01:002015-10-16T17:01:05.686+01:00A theological point, Fr., though a rather importan...A theological point, Fr., though a rather important one. Our Lord, Christ the King, currently reigning, cannot have and needs no successor. Nor can He be said in any way to have ceased being the head of his body, the Church, such that he can have a successor. Nor us he absent from his Church, but is present by the Holy Spirit.Fr. Michael LaRuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04824777871450270095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-16712272643573290772015-10-16T15:27:43.253+01:002015-10-16T15:27:43.253+01:00"La Foi, c'est moi.""La Foi, c'est moi." Romulushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18071095565318181930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-79156876825481384312015-10-16T14:25:57.958+01:002015-10-16T14:25:57.958+01:00Fr. Hunwicke, I so look forward to reading your co...Fr. Hunwicke, I so look forward to reading your commentary on the Synod. Thank you so much for your clarity of thought and expression. It is much appreciated. We are blessed to have men who can think historically and critically. <br />You are becoming, I fear, a rare species.Evangelinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12795851343763536594noreply@blogger.com