tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post7523608131975911504..comments2024-03-28T14:19:53.973+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: SWISHFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-33966953941597576632010-11-15T13:35:23.365+00:002010-11-15T13:35:23.365+00:00"... a deal which [+Hind] did to get the See&..."... a deal which [+Hind] did to get the See".<br /><br />Perhaps. And if this is correct, those charged with the appointment would undoubtedly have looked elsewhere if he'd not made it. Where, I wonder? (+)Lewes, perhaps?<br /><br />And after all, why on earth should anyone expect those holding authority in the Church of England to countenance the appointment of a diocesan bishop Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09367545445575135099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-33929090887152975632010-11-14T17:41:45.411+00:002010-11-14T17:41:45.411+00:00Is SWISH really a "crude attempt to sabotage ...Is SWISH really a "crude attempt to sabotage the Holy Father's Ordinariate scheme"?Canterbury Anglicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16594180139267514819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-14449894937421086872010-11-13T21:30:20.425+00:002010-11-13T21:30:20.425+00:00May we expect, Fr H., a like piece on St Hilda? H...May we expect, Fr H., a like piece on St Hilda? Hope so!Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-34552556958809975102010-11-13T17:38:17.490+00:002010-11-13T17:38:17.490+00:00A panther in hinde's clothing, alas.A panther in hinde's clothing, alas.austinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05353043674005221535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-4563493022834502152010-11-13T17:13:31.410+00:002010-11-13T17:13:31.410+00:00Sui Generis should rest assured that Bishop Hind d...Sui Generis should rest assured that Bishop Hind does not commission others to ordain women priests. <br /><br />He was indeed asked at a diocesan synod last year whether he would appoint a new Bishop of Horsham who would ordain them. He responded that he would not do so, because Horsham's episcope derives from Chichester's. +Horsham cannot do what +Chichester will not do. <br /><br />Clavushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15892307736412737791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-11272979491604237832010-11-13T16:33:18.716+00:002010-11-13T16:33:18.716+00:00I suspect that Bishop Hinde is not an impossibilis...I suspect that Bishop Hinde is not an impossibilist, but takes the "oecumenical" view. According to this view, absent an Oecumenical Council the ordination of women to the presbyterate and episcopate is certainly illicit and possibly (but not certainly) invalid (because only an Oe.C. could decide that point).<br /><br />How that would square with (a) his practice in respect of female Sir Watkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02000106556898498656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-57774052183711280572010-11-13T15:54:48.997+00:002010-11-13T15:54:48.997+00:00Pastor in Valle puts his finger on the nub of the ...Pastor in Valle puts his finger on the nub of the question. (Do questions have nubs? - but I digress.)<br /><br />I don't know what it is supposed that the Bishop of Chichester believes. If he believes that women priests are not, in fact, priests, then his licensing them seems cynical. But he might believe that the ordination of women is technically valid, but done illicitly, or a Sui Jurishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730688362896132933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-6265161143262556702010-11-13T15:23:08.647+00:002010-11-13T15:23:08.647+00:00I too have been puzzled by Bishop Hinde. I was (ec...I too have been puzzled by Bishop Hinde. I was (ecumenically) present when he inducted a woman priest in Shoreham, and wondered just how he was working it all out in his own mind—not recognizing the sacraments that she would administer (except baptism), but still confidently placing the people's souls into her hands qua priest.<br />As it happens, she is an excellent pastrix, a delightful Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-4125740101188626242010-11-13T11:20:12.074+00:002010-11-13T11:20:12.074+00:00But Father, surely you know you mustn't mentio...But Father, surely you know you mustn't mention this!<br /><br />I suspect the uptake for SSWSH, whatever it may be - and I further suspect it to be quite large - is entirely because it seems to promise to keep things exactly as they are. It can do that precisely until the first woman bishop is consecrated. Then, it would have three options: melt away; fudge some un-ecclesiological compromiseEnrico Dantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12225046023754109591noreply@blogger.com