tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post7129907581216305546..comments2024-03-18T20:38:40.751+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Like getting blood out of a stoneFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-11063782451718666962018-03-20T13:55:14.827+00:002018-03-20T13:55:14.827+00:00Pulex wrote: "This all sad affair has succeed...Pulex wrote: "This all sad affair has succeeded to show in bad light Msgr. Vigano, Pope Francis, and Pope emeritus Benedict as well."<br /><br />How does this show Pope Emeritus Benedict in a bad light ?Fred W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02457297711864902911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-11557377370825673682018-03-20T11:22:13.711+00:002018-03-20T11:22:13.711+00:00A Daughter of Mary said... "He is now Cardina...A Daughter of Mary said... "He is now Cardinal Ratzinger."<br /><br />Actually, he isn't. Whatever he is, and however he should be addressed, he isn't a Cardinal.<br /><br />Cardinal is not an order in the same way as a priest or bishop; it is not a thing in itself; instead technically the cardinals are the senior clergy of Rome. So to be created a cardinal one has to be RichardThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16761130714944237699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-84194699087141561022018-03-19T19:32:21.529+00:002018-03-19T19:32:21.529+00:00A Daughter of Mary - The title "pope emeritus...A Daughter of Mary - The title "pope emeritus" may or may not have been the wisest choice, and perhaps Bishop of Rome emeritus could make as much sense with less confusion, though few might wish to be considered a BORE. But clearly he was pope, and is now emeritus. He remains a priest and bishop, but not, as I understand it, a cardinal, as Ratzinger or Benedict or anything else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-42440013533013630012018-03-19T15:33:53.387+00:002018-03-19T15:33:53.387+00:00What puzzles me is that Cardinal Ratzinger, having...What puzzles me is that Cardinal Ratzinger, having resigned his office as Pope, continues to refer to himself as Pope, dresses as Pope, and allows others to do this. He is not the pope, present or future - he is pope-past if we can refer to him in any way regarding the papacy. We must stop referring to him in that way. He is now Cardinal Ratzinger.<br /><br />He may be going along with this A Daughter of Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01439393756090630198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-31563055401665371962018-03-19T13:14:50.349+00:002018-03-19T13:14:50.349+00:00There is an interview in Commonweal (sorry to ment...There is an interview in Commonweal (sorry to mention such a rag)with Peter Hunermann. It seems to me to suggest that PH has been quite an influence on PF. And not only for AL.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11138319899878030040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-85474935424870427062018-03-19T12:12:06.423+00:002018-03-19T12:12:06.423+00:00Doubt that PF departure would affect the trend tow...Doubt that PF departure would affect the trend towards the Protestant and diabolical except to install a much slicker and slipperier heretic. The question is how many of the Cardinals still maintain the Catholic faith. Michael Dowdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650782589323136700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-25386610383177414042018-03-19T11:53:51.704+00:002018-03-19T11:53:51.704+00:00Is it just my imagination or does Mgr Vigano, head...Is it just my imagination or does Mgr Vigano, head of Vatican communications, actually look very like Alastair Campbell, who did the same job for Tony Blair?RichardThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16761130714944237699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-20400867023773665702018-03-19T09:59:08.530+00:002018-03-19T09:59:08.530+00:00Would such behaviour have resulted in a sacking in...Would such behaviour have resulted in a sacking in Britain? It certainly should do, but remember that it took an actual death (of the weapons inspector Dr. Kelly) to build up a sufficiently strong sense of scandal to force Alastair Campbell out.<br /><br />I fear revelations from the Vatican may have to get even worse before they can try to get better.RichardThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16761130714944237699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-88548502835892617832018-03-19T00:25:30.192+00:002018-03-19T00:25:30.192+00:00The depravity in the Vatican beggars belief. Sexua...The depravity in the Vatican beggars belief. Sexual immorality is allowed to proliferate with no correction or even admission of there being a problem. Rarely is anyone held to account and then only after the civil authorities or the secular media force the issue. <br /><br />Financial impropriety is tolerated and anyone who tries to correct it is summarily fired. Cardinals involved in dubious GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-13637116713675907602018-03-18T20:42:13.832+00:002018-03-18T20:42:13.832+00:00The lemonade being made by this lemon of a pontifi...The lemonade being made by this lemon of a pontificate is - one can only hope - a truly deep and longlasting understanding among the faithful, and perhaps a few clerics, of the true limits, rationale and duties of the papacy and the Bishop of Rome.<br /><br />Let's face it - the modern Papacy has become a instrument of power of a type and degree quite different from anything that existed Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12833345391579579562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-9617879097359807342018-03-18T20:04:13.866+00:002018-03-18T20:04:13.866+00:00This all sad affair has succeeded to show in bad l...This all sad affair has succeeded to show in bad light Msgr. Vigano, Pope Francis, and Pope emeritus Benedict as well. The newly revealed 3rd paragraph concerns, after all, Benedict's former co-author and the curator of the German edition of Denzinger. Are the rest of the eleven authors more orthodox than P. Hunermann?Pulexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13164993172745639593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-78309646269608584502018-03-18T17:33:05.774+00:002018-03-18T17:33:05.774+00:00I will take the bait Father.
I will venture to sug...I will take the bait Father.<br />I will venture to suggest you consider the case of Selwyn Lloyd. He lied to the House of Commons about the conspiracy with the French and Israeli governments over the attack on Egypt in 1956. Whatever view you take about the 'neccessity' of the deception, he neither resigned nor ever made a clean breast of it. (In contrast with Jim Callaghan over E sapelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09886268559214926797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-68356980811875330032018-03-18T17:21:43.139+00:002018-03-18T17:21:43.139+00:00You perhaps might want to skip to the 'Conclus...You perhaps might want to skip to the 'Conclusions' of the Ratzinger brief I just have submitted.Liam Ronanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01376666519733160167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-36917460897635789122018-03-18T17:20:20.030+00:002018-03-18T17:20:20.030+00:00I realize this is ever so slightly off-topic, but ...I realize this is ever so slightly off-topic, but it does pertain to the retrospective takes of priest-theologian Joseph Ratzinger in 1972 on the topic of irregular unions and the circumstances under which these parties may be able to partake in the reception of Holy Communion. I read it and found his conclusions/thoughts seem to mirror those of Francis (link below):<br /><br />Joseph Ratzinger -Liam Ronanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01376666519733160167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-31459299637145555422018-03-18T16:08:11.798+00:002018-03-18T16:08:11.798+00:00Will Vigano be gone-o?
Prolly not.
Mr. James Lar...Will Vigano be gone-o?<br /><br />Prolly not.<br /><br />Mr. James Larson made an interesting observation years ago about the Church having so many crummy Cardinals and Bathetic Bishops and how Trent toiled to take out the trash but The Catholic Authority did not such thing, it simple promoted the wolves, made them more powerful and, thus, proportionally more wicked and destructive...<br /><br /Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-36385677713738886922018-03-18T15:39:24.308+00:002018-03-18T15:39:24.308+00:00Perhaps, Father, the Vatican has been awaiting a g...Perhaps, Father, the Vatican has been awaiting a good day to bury bad news. Liam Ronanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01376666519733160167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-10366193299171076962018-03-18T14:45:43.394+00:002018-03-18T14:45:43.394+00:00Dear Father. Bravo. If only we had a Prelature th...Dear Father. Bravo. If only we had a Prelature that could learn from your fortnight commentary.<br /><br />Sadly...<br /><br />Upton Sinclair observed : <i>It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.</i><br /><br />Applying Sinclair's observation to the Prelature's silence about the Heteropraxis of Our Pope and Our Cross, we Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-82922300717303075202018-03-18T14:23:58.310+00:002018-03-18T14:23:58.310+00:00Now the Vatican news website provides some comment...Now the Vatican news website provides some comments, such as this (abbreviated from a longer paragraph):<br /><br />The Secretariat for Communication takes note of polemical statements in the press suggesting censorship of a letter by Pope emeritus Benedict XVI. The decision to omit comments by the Pope emeritus regarding certain contributors to the series was motivated by discretion and not by Andreas Meszaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08427763145710882785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-62141337852940275412018-03-18T13:45:04.082+00:002018-03-18T13:45:04.082+00:00Amen Father,amen!!Amen Father,amen!!philipjohnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128964006463059159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-84388443879299544672018-03-18T13:39:20.291+00:002018-03-18T13:39:20.291+00:00Taken all together, the letter now reads like Mark...Taken all together, the letter now reads like Mark Anthony's funeral oration in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar. I write to praise this pontificate not to bring it down (I am aware that I hold a delicate and unprecedented position in the Church), for they are honourable men. Nonetheless I am, as it happens, sadly unable to endorse their little plan - and they are all, all honourable men - Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-42521571089264311022018-03-18T11:53:34.213+00:002018-03-18T11:53:34.213+00:00I think it's become apparent that Ratzinger...I think it's become apparent that Ratzinger's letter, as I said, was very carefully written. It's polite but firm throughout and demonstrates an awareness of all ramifications of the request that was made to him, as well as how it all reflects on the papacy as an institution. That the Bergoglians should nevertheless have attempted to glean the positive from it while concealing the mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12847411975641738898noreply@blogger.com