tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post6962974371240452382..comments2024-03-29T09:39:50.604+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: More on the UkrainiansFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-54313427129202740792011-04-04T21:31:23.004+01:002011-04-04T21:31:23.004+01:00Two weeks ago my son and I attended the "loca...Two weeks ago my son and I attended the "local" (almost a one hundred mile trip, one way) Greek Catholic Church where the priest celebrated the proskomedia in the centre of the church, facing the congregation. The office was very truncated and had the people bring up their own little piece of bread to be consecrated. This parish also sometimes has the priest, during the words of Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06431501238259860462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-71032782261381799702011-04-01T13:09:05.593+01:002011-04-01T13:09:05.593+01:00"There is the practice of "delatinisatio..."There is the practice of "delatinisation': consider that Ukrainian Catholics must now have recourse to Lefebvrist bishops if they are to secure the ordination of priests prepared to continue Eucharistic Adoration, the Holy Rosary, and the Stations of the Cross"<br /><br />The new head of the UGCC is a devotee of the Rosary:<br /><br />http://www.day.kiev.ua/207395<br /><br />Augustinushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03312388118843132244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-58140017478504121542011-03-30T22:01:23.259+01:002011-03-30T22:01:23.259+01:00I agree completely with you, Father. The Eastern C...I agree completely with you, Father. The Eastern Catholic Churches provide an important witness to the universality of the Catholic Church. That said, there are, unfortunately, stupid and/or misguided people everywhere (including within the hierarchy of the Latin Church), but the Roman Pontiffs have for centuries defended the rights of the Eastern Catholic Churches-The Flying Dutchmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10057552757013226176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-15633851959983007872011-03-30T21:29:54.556+01:002011-03-30T21:29:54.556+01:00I cannot resist mentioning that over in Eastern Sl...I cannot resist mentioning that over in Eastern Slovakia in the City of Presov (in Hungarian Eperies) there is both a Greek** Catholic (Uniate) Bishop and an Orthodox Bishop. The Roman Rite Bishop for Presov is the Archbishop of Kosice far to the South of Presov. One of the only changes made during the Prague Spring that lasted Normalisation was the restoration of the Greek-Catholic Eparchy of Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15560006282627072784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-46039961069519098272011-03-30T18:47:29.947+01:002011-03-30T18:47:29.947+01:00There are currently certain tendencies within some...There are currently certain tendencies within some Eastern Catholic Churches. There is the widespread excision of <em>filioque</em> clause. There is a dangerous Christological imprecision in statements made jointly by Chaldean Catholics and by the Assyrian Church.<br /><br />There is the practice of "delatinisation': consider that Ukrainian Catholics must now have recourse to Lefebvrist David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-24178738921834560812011-03-30T18:19:34.128+01:002011-03-30T18:19:34.128+01:00Since Toth and latinisations have been mentioned i...Since Toth and latinisations have been mentioned it's interesting to note that those Ruthenians who went over to Constantinople and formed ACROD, rather than over to Moscow, were allowed retain most of their customs and praxis and do so to this day. As such, at first glance, it's quite difficult to distinguish an Orthodox parish from a Greek-Catholic one in much of Pennsylvania.Conchúrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06616869558976756046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-33894351262101595232011-03-30T16:41:54.266+01:002011-03-30T16:41:54.266+01:00Some latinisations saved the greek-catholics from ...Some latinisations saved the greek-catholics from the latinisation.<br /><br />e.g. Sacred-Heart friday with regular confession in the greek-catholik parishes saved them to go over to the "polish" (=latins). Compare the real liturgical life and eucharistic piety with real russian-orthodox parishes....Jenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297640353342491585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-38172710696023810952011-03-30T16:20:37.625+01:002011-03-30T16:20:37.625+01:00ENCOURAGED variety? In theory, perhaps. But Rome i...ENCOURAGED variety? In theory, perhaps. But Rome is a long way away from most places. You might want to take a look at the life of St. Alexis Toth, the Ruthenian priest who was driven into the Orthodox Church when a Catholic bishop refused to accept the validity of his orders.Tawserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12823690750419031274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-51526153020667192482011-03-30T13:45:26.902+01:002011-03-30T13:45:26.902+01:00In the Latin West, the Pax was so very much on the...In the Latin West, the Pax was so very much on the mouth that it was deemed to break a fast!!!!Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-56548587494951297622011-03-30T13:34:40.448+01:002011-03-30T13:34:40.448+01:00Indeed. Much liturgical kissing goes on: of the ho...Indeed. Much liturgical kissing goes on: of the holy table, of the gospel, of priestly hands, of all manner of liturgical hardware - it is part and parcel of priest-craft's character. As David Jones wrote in <i>Kensington Mass</i>:<br /><i>He has no need of<br />the rubric's nudge: osculator altare in medio.<br />for what bodily act other<br />would serve here?<br />Creaturely of Священник селаhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08182325210748920363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-65207329721197291862011-03-30T10:48:16.294+01:002011-03-30T10:48:16.294+01:00I love the image of Fr H. enjoying eighteenth cent...I love the image of Fr H. enjoying eighteenth century Papal Latinity, exercised in behalf of the Christian East. Perhaps, if we are good, he will treat us to an extract...Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.com