tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post63782688698177375..comments2024-03-29T01:24:45.251+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: MISSALE PARISIENSE, Feria VI post cineresFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-16239497103960942072016-02-13T15:44:21.768+00:002016-02-13T15:44:21.768+00:00Thank-you @Victor. Actually "appeal to your m...Thank-you @Victor. Actually "appeal to your mercy for us" would make better sense in English than "plead for us before your mercy". (I was thinking of the idea of standing before the 'mercy seat' of judgement). It also sounds more maternal while still using a juridical idiom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-73958981730987537382016-02-13T09:37:47.197+00:002016-02-13T09:37:47.197+00:00@ Philipp Sharpe: I think it is important to keep ...@ Philipp Sharpe: I think it is important to keep the plural of "fontes" - it is not only one fountain of eternal salvation, but five of them. Also, "plagae" and "vulnerum" are two different words; the translation should mirror the difference. Otherwise, both your and Thomas' translations are quite elegant and precise.Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983955289507752980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-53656452004449733312016-02-13T08:58:06.779+00:002016-02-13T08:58:06.779+00:00I am slow at the Latin, but I enjoy striving to ex...I am slow at the Latin, but I enjoy striving to express things clearly in English. With no criticism of other efforts, here are my attempts, the first of which tries to capture the Scriptural reference to 1 Peter 2:24 (Isaiah 53:5)<br /><br />Grant, we beg , merciful God; that the holy stripes of your Only Begotten might be for us the healing of wounds and fountains of eternal life.<br /><br />WeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-48899205582190791762016-02-13T05:47:40.752+00:002016-02-13T05:47:40.752+00:00Merciful God, grant, we pray, that the holy wounds...Merciful God, grant, we pray, that the holy wounds of your Only Begotten Son may be the cure for our wounds and the font of eternal salvation.<br /><br />We pray, Lord, in your mercy, may the Blessed Virgin Mary your mother intercede for us, now and at the hour of our death, whose soul, at the hour of your passion, sorrow's sword pierced.Philip Sharpehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10823524071391095085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-5950916387383627482016-02-12T19:19:39.878+00:002016-02-12T19:19:39.878+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Matthew Hazellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140839291971762017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-69920837696543052252016-02-12T19:19:11.866+00:002016-02-12T19:19:11.866+00:00For the Five Wounds collect, I thought I would cha...For the Five Wounds collect, I thought I would channel my inner 1973 ICEL, just for a laugh:<br /><br /><i>Father,<br />your Son's death is the source of our healing.<br />Continue to help us towards eternal life.</i><br /><br />Okay, now everyone else can get back to actual translations and serious commentary...!Matthew Hazellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140839291971762017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-38285360354729461862016-02-12T19:07:31.962+00:002016-02-12T19:07:31.962+00:00Oh my! Unheated Churches are not known in Britain?...Oh my! Unheated Churches are not known in Britain? My Goodness! Then just come to Europe. I have never experienced a heated Church in Germany, Austria, Switzerland or Italy, except some of the hideous newly built Churches of the "Underground Carpark style". My own, modern, but basilika style Church is also unheated and quite often at Vigils (5 am) we have temperatures of 3 to 5 degrees Pater Raphaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700187664220391134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-18411993484892802452016-02-12T14:45:10.735+00:002016-02-12T14:45:10.735+00:00"Grant, we prithee, merciful God, that Thy O..."Grant, we prithee, merciful God, that Thy Only Son's Holy Wounds may redound to the healing of our gashes and become the founts of our eternal salvation."<br /><br />"May the Blessed Virgin Mary, Thy mother, intercede with Thy clemency, now and in the hour of our death; whose soul, at the hour of Thy Passion, was pierced by a sword of dolour."<br /><br />I tried to stay Victorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983955289507752980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-15073411050510111052016-02-12T14:25:52.052+00:002016-02-12T14:25:52.052+00:00The Portuguese climate is fairly mild, so you can ...The Portuguese climate is fairly mild, so you can experience that here too. During summer in the southern regions you'll also have in many village churches the opportunity of submitting yourself to the feeling of a closed space scorched by the sun while crammed with people, without air conditioning.Duarte Valériohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556619578157122074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-7780321436135692702016-02-12T13:07:19.652+00:002016-02-12T13:07:19.652+00:00"Sometimes I think people forget what life mu..."Sometimes I think people forget what life must have been like in the age of unheated churches."<br /><br />Unless you lived in postwar Europe behind the Iron Curtain.<br />Andreas Meszaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08427763145710882785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-24406372770935437232016-02-12T13:03:14.783+00:002016-02-12T13:03:14.783+00:00Father, what is it that you found in the missal to...Father, what is it that you found in the missal to agree with D. Gueranger's approach to them?<br />O n a tangent, I find that there's a bit of irony in the fact that he worked so hard to end the Gallican missals, yet tried to "reconstruct" a Cluniac rite for his monastery (which Rome frowned upon and denied).Marco da Vinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06092410765851812842noreply@blogger.com