tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post6146758874464522840..comments2024-03-29T01:24:45.251+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: How wrong can it be to kill Catholics when so many people enjoy doing it?Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-14493817978528025252022-10-04T01:48:48.442+01:002022-10-04T01:48:48.442+01:00“The dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima,” Archbisho...“The dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima,” Archbishop Sheen said, “blotted out boundaries. There was no longer a boundary between the military and the civilian, between the helper and the helped, between the wounded and the nurse and the doctor, and the living and the dead. For even the living who escaped the bomb were already half-dead. So we broke down boundaries and limits and from that time on Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521081518182977345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-53589728615735409922022-10-01T16:04:51.554+01:002022-10-01T16:04:51.554+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.coradcorloquiturhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07125381369456761748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-30397704626453934932022-10-01T15:59:41.366+01:002022-10-01T15:59:41.366+01:00That any intelligent, orthodox Catholic would twis...That any intelligent, orthodox Catholic would twist his intellect into a pretzel to defend the atrocity of the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki---commanded by a nasty American president, member of the anti-Christian masonic sect, who showed his contempt for the Papacy and, hence, for Catholics by addressing His Holiness Pope Pius XII as "Mr. Pacelli"---is repulsive and beyond coradcorloquiturhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07125381369456761748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-13913761111179642562022-09-30T19:11:42.602+01:002022-09-30T19:11:42.602+01:00Yup, better to have enabled a giant Jonestown; and...Yup, better to have enabled a giant Jonestown; and to have let babies be slaughtered by their mothers, mothers by their husbands or fathers-in-law or neighbors, and the survivors have gutted themselves and twisted in pain for hours or days before succumbing. That is gentle mercy.<br /><br />Let there be a country of bones instead of survivors, but let our consciences be totally happy about it. Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-59491835401846726152022-09-30T05:44:07.084+01:002022-09-30T05:44:07.084+01:00G.E.M. Anscombe is my hero, and has been ever sinc...G.E.M. Anscombe is my hero, and has been ever since I read "Mr. Truman's Degree" (found here: https://projectintegrity.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/mr_trumans_degree.pdf). <br /><br />"For men to choose to kill the innocent as a means to their ends is always murder, and murder is is one of the worst of human actions. ...with Hiroshima and Nagasaki we are not confronted with a Fr. Michael LaRuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04824777871450270095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-64186390000304522922022-09-28T17:52:37.147+01:002022-09-28T17:52:37.147+01:00Dear frjustin,
while I tend to agree that the cho...Dear frjustin,<br /><br />while I tend to agree that the choice, at least the choice concerning Hiroshima (I'd like to distinguish it from Nagasaki), doesn't make President Truman into a moral monster,<br /><br />1. The undisputed fact that there have been unjust bombings before, and on a large scale, in this same war does not allow unjust bombings.<br /><br />2. <i>If</i> the bombing of Moritz Gruberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06313974490621703071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-4857890641668190662022-09-28T16:13:13.326+01:002022-09-28T16:13:13.326+01:00>>Even in hindsight, one can plausibly claim...>>Even in hindsight, one can plausibly claim that more human lives were saved than lost ...<br /><br />The question is, can the damage of an atomic bomb be justified as collateral damage via the "actions with double-effect path", assuming that enemy machinery, infrastructure and soldiers are things you can legitimately bomb? - Well, it is not for me to decide here, though I have aMoritz Gruberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06313974490621703071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-64224582690023673482022-09-28T12:57:58.242+01:002022-09-28T12:57:58.242+01:00Whether the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was ...Whether the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was intrinsically evil is something of a quaestio disputata. The biographer of Pope John Paul II contends that it was not:<br /><br />"The constraints on the bombing of cities set by the just war tradition of moral reasoning had been breached long before the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki; far more Japanese died in the spring 1945 frjustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109539584303934489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-44414232025499152242022-09-28T09:44:26.401+01:002022-09-28T09:44:26.401+01:00That's an attempt to justify doing evil - in t...That's an attempt to justify doing evil - in the form of mass murder - so that good can result.<br /><br />AvB.Albrecht von Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12996637489269911349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-9390913216655459602022-09-28T09:31:32.164+01:002022-09-28T09:31:32.164+01:00Dear Mr Vasc
I believe that there are things whic...Dear Mr Vasc<br /><br />I believe that there are things which are intrinsice mala. I believe, moreover, that this is the teaching of the Catholic Church.Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-46366780073450899292022-09-28T02:16:47.936+01:002022-09-28T02:16:47.936+01:00If you were taught by the great Classical scholar ...If you were taught by the great Classical scholar Margaret Hubbard, you were indeed blessed, Father H.<br />However, the utter shock of non-combattant civilians - even of the scientists involved - at the very fact of the existence of nuclear destructive powers and their use under any circumstances arguably distorted postwar academic reactions and judgements on Hiroshima and Nagasaki (as also John Vaschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00335331585265267754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-65117464699927959942022-09-27T16:53:20.735+01:002022-09-27T16:53:20.735+01:00Regarding Hilary Mantel, a quote from her Wikipedi...Regarding Hilary Mantel, a quote from her Wikipedia entry concerning her views on the Church:<br /><br />"[the] real cliché, the sense of guilt. You grow up believing that you're wrong and bad. And for me, because I took what I was told really seriously, it bred a very intense habit of introspection and self-examination and a terrible severity with myself. So that nothing was ever good John Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352405449391514146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-40257804048828303642022-09-27T06:28:25.177+01:002022-09-27T06:28:25.177+01:00The church didn't "massacre" them, i...The church didn't "massacre" them, it administered justice. These people were child-murdering, anarchical filth, much like the later Anabaptists in Muenster. As even the anti-catholic bigot, Henry Charles Lea admitted, in his History Of The Inquisition, the forces of orthodoxy were those of progress, because the Cathars had surrendered their sovereignty, as human beings, over Albrecht von Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12996637489269911349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-70770260133287367162022-09-26T21:02:43.692+01:002022-09-26T21:02:43.692+01:00I have declined to enable an offered comment, two ...I have declined to enable an offered comment, two lines long, in which the writer crams in FIVE typos.<br /><br />I have expressed before my view of people who dash off their important views before racing off, presumably, to spread their wisdom in other sites.<br /><br />My view is unchanged: if your time is so amazingly valuable, save some more of it by not bothering to read my blog.Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-45291246089733125662022-09-26T18:04:59.830+01:002022-09-26T18:04:59.830+01:00What about thee Roman Churh's massacre of th...What about thee Roman Churh's massacre of the Cathars all over France and many other examples of persecution in otheer lands. <br />Yours jAMES fINCH.Puzzled!https://www.blogger.com/profile/09496869042260677985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-28631204836493254912022-09-26T17:38:42.643+01:002022-09-26T17:38:42.643+01:00I see that there is another book about those four ...I see that there is another book about those four 'Metaphysical Animals', by Clare Mac Cumhaill and Rachel Wiseman, published this year. I have the Lipscomb unread but tend to be suspicious of what Amazon calls 'vibrant portraits': perhaps 'MA' is actually a good read, though.Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-46871458434882961222022-09-26T17:22:23.909+01:002022-09-26T17:22:23.909+01:00I only relatively late in life (am now 65) came to...I only relatively late in life (am now 65) came to see that, whatever potential miseries Mr Truman's bombs may have averted, their use was extraordinarily immoral, and much of this conversatio I owe to EA's witness. I pray that certain public persons have a similar conversion, even at such a late date in their lives, with respect to their opinions about aspects of human sexuality, the Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-92127828968597679512022-09-26T14:13:54.952+01:002022-09-26T14:13:54.952+01:00The homefront Japanese uniforms were made of Japan...The homefront Japanese uniforms were made of Japanese hempcloth, which initially was a big boon to the fading traditional hempcloth industry. But it is not as comfortable a material as cotton in any way, and those who survived the war took a great dislike to hempcloth. This came up on some Japanese cloth websites... And it explained a lot.<br /><br />The anime industry is mostly peopled by the Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-47636031047553274752022-09-26T13:50:05.037+01:002022-09-26T13:50:05.037+01:00A native of Nagasaki, Kimota, who works for the Na...A native of Nagasaki, Kimota, who works for the Nagasaki Prefecture Convention and Tourism Association has a lengthy article on Truman as a war criminal posted on September 16, 2022. He writes:<br /><br />"During his presidency, President Truman was fully aware of the terrible impact of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In his memoirs, The White House Diary, Truman stated,'Ifrjustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109539584303934489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-52719898197513139722022-09-26T13:44:52.024+01:002022-09-26T13:44:52.024+01:00The Japanese government openly and repeatedly decl...The Japanese government openly and repeatedly declared that every single one of their citizens, including babies, were soldiers. They made all their citizens wear various uniforms during working hours or while in public. (This is when most Japanese women began wearing panties/knickers instead of shifts and loincloths, because kimono underwear did not work with their designated uniform.)<br /><br Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-12521969951996659782022-09-26T13:23:32.201+01:002022-09-26T13:23:32.201+01:00President Truman was no war criminal. He was a cou...President Truman was no war criminal. He was a courageous leader of the free world. He had the strength of character to make the difficult, painful decision to drop the atom bombs on Japan. Had the allied invasion of the Japanese home islands gone ahead, the war would have lasted for at least another year and hundreds of thousands of more deaths would have occurred, both Japanese civilians and Greyman 82https://www.blogger.com/profile/13472976732157444972noreply@blogger.com