tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post6117266592545437310..comments2024-03-29T09:39:50.604+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: WiggeryFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-23101472411333107202017-08-21T11:33:40.041+01:002017-08-21T11:33:40.041+01:00Re the blue choir dress: Given that before the adv...Re the blue choir dress: Given that before the advent of modern dyes at the end of the 19th century, it is not too much of a surprise if the violet of a bishop's robes came out rather more blue, given the sometimes rather (un)reliability of earlier methods.<br /><br />The precise shade of violet for prelates was only standardized in the 1930s (and IMHO it looks rather like pink than violet); Protasiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13513744611326784368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-48354590077317974492017-08-21T07:47:10.810+01:002017-08-21T07:47:10.810+01:00Perhaps it would be sound practice for all convert...Perhaps it would be sound practice for all converts to have to wear wigs until it is felt that they have been fully "inculturated"as you say,Father,and there could then be a "wig throwing" ceremony to demonstrate publicly that they have abandoned their previous errors? If they should fall back into such ways,such as claiming priestly lineage while practising as a Protestant,El Codohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01057779410347215062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-3137899968730685382017-08-21T01:48:44.351+01:002017-08-21T01:48:44.351+01:00Following on from Pater Edmund, Abbé Jean-Baptiste...Following on from Pater Edmund, Abbé Jean-Baptiste Thiers's lengthy treatise on the wig (1690) deals in great detail with contemporary practice. Thiers notes that clergy should take off their headpieces from the Preface to the Ablutions but that they do not. Many clergy had a shorter wig for offices but this and their street wig had a tonsure made out of animal skin to imitate human skin, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-13201102715765753982017-08-20T21:35:46.995+01:002017-08-20T21:35:46.995+01:00Benedict XIII (of Eggs Benedict fame) published a ...Benedict XIII (of Eggs Benedict fame) published a bull in 1724 against clerics wearing wigs. The bull’s in Latin (obviously) and so is beyond my ken but I can distinguish “minus perucca” and the penalty “incarcerationis totidem dierum” amongst the verbiage.DeHereticoComburendohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18033835681461582626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-52812047652377284822017-08-20T19:58:07.613+01:002017-08-20T19:58:07.613+01:00The learned doctor Jean-Baptiste Thiers has a trea...The learned doctor Jean-Baptiste Thiers has a treatise on this subject: https://books.google.at/books?id=jrAPpamDCQsC&pg=PR1#v=onepage&q&f=falsePater Edmundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02227184831077044432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-39874576680211570942017-08-20T17:38:11.397+01:002017-08-20T17:38:11.397+01:00The wearing of wigs by clerics was prohibited at a...The wearing of wigs by clerics was prohibited at a fairly early date but it seems that local churches outside of Italy did not feel the rule was universal. McManners' £Church and Society in Eighteenth Century France" describes them being widely worn, though perhaps with a hole where the tonsure should be, which might be substituted for a piece of flesh coloured silk or pig skin ("anUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12813595031543071453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-7915419260404478992017-08-20T15:35:16.675+01:002017-08-20T15:35:16.675+01:00I'm glad not to have to bother with a wig, sin...I'm glad not to have to bother with a wig, since I have my hair. I just do a low ponytail for Mass.Fr Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15521671841072661886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-73024598483888202072017-08-20T15:15:46.921+01:002017-08-20T15:15:46.921+01:00Dear Reverend Father, 18th century French clerical...Dear Reverend Father, 18th century French clerical wigs were often made with the tonsure sewn into it, some survive; a small round disc, about 2 inches across, mostly from mother-of-pearl or ivory, but presumably for lesser clerics whose wigs do not survive, from bone or painted canvas. Such practice continued until the end of the common wearing of wigs in the early 19th century.<br /><br />It Josephus Muris Saliensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10888638147153175697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-20391199575902313642017-08-20T14:17:47.545+01:002017-08-20T14:17:47.545+01:00I believe the practice was to have a wig stand on ...I believe the practice was to have a wig stand on the gradine and to take the wig off at the offertory.Richard Duncanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07267252492721777370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-35027800216118625202017-08-20T14:13:33.334+01:002017-08-20T14:13:33.334+01:00Rev. John O'Brien writes in his "A histor...Rev. John O'Brien writes in his "A history of the mass and its ceremonies in the Eastern and Western church" (1869) as follows:<br /><br />In case the celebrant should have permission to wear a wig he is never bound to remove it, for it ranks neither as a Berretta nor Zucchetto, but is rather esteemed as one's own hair. Permission to wear it, however, is very rarely granted by Макс Фомичhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906413240682044916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-26876485457207727332017-08-20T12:59:21.834+01:002017-08-20T12:59:21.834+01:00Priests - at least in Italy - wore wigs but short ...Priests - at least in Italy - wore wigs but short ones, without tails and with a round hole where the tonsure was.<br />I am not sure whether they actually wore them during Mass; I recollect though seeing at a friend's house, a member of one of the families of the Ravenna nobility, a "supplica" to the S. Congregation of Rites of an XVIII c. ancestor, a canon, who asked to be able toguidettohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00708008297677915841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-37651936549478110022017-08-20T10:57:17.635+01:002017-08-20T10:57:17.635+01:00Might not have been a detachable wig, but rather e...Might not have been a detachable wig, but rather extremely coiffed natural hair.Eriugenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181241796631553348noreply@blogger.com