tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post5979739813766459724..comments2024-03-29T01:24:45.251+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Noah ... or Noe ...Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-45769867554593835172019-11-25T17:00:22.000+00:002019-11-25T17:00:22.000+00:00"If we are to take a look at the Aramaic Targ...<i>"If we are to take a look at the Aramaic Targums we find that Melchizedek was thought to be Shem, the son of Noah."</i><br /><br />This is probably an invention of people wanting to argue against the Epistle to the Hebrews, in order to claim that we DO have the "father and mother" (Noah and his wife) for Melchisedec and he was in an ancestral line to Levite priesthood.<br /Hans Georg Lundahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055583255516264955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-71919015114278968032019-11-04T16:44:36.432+00:002019-11-04T16:44:36.432+00:00Dear Paul Hellyer one could make a case that a big...Dear Paul Hellyer one could make a case that a big reason why the Church is in dire straits is precisely because many in it ignore the teachings of the Church Fathers and act as though Catholicism was reinvented in the last 70 years. Rather than rearranging the deck chairs, perhaps a better analogy is saving the precious crown jewels in the cargo hold that some of the crew are trying to throw John Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352405449391514146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-77744675948195062192019-11-02T16:19:44.534+00:002019-11-02T16:19:44.534+00:00Dear chap. Its all verrry interesting. But surely ...Dear chap. Its all verrry interesting. But surely you can use your brain power to something more useful. Have you not noticed that the Holy Catholic Church is under attack? It is in dire straits. The Pope is undermining the faith of millions of Catholics and all you can do with all your learning is . . rearrange the deck chairs . . Paul Hellyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12155821750459419187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-72748211699099775972019-11-02T01:56:09.874+00:002019-11-02T01:56:09.874+00:00St. Jerome mentions some typological relationships...St. Jerome mentions some typological relationships of Noe: <br /><br />Peccat mundus et sine aquarum diluvio non purgatur, statimque columba Spiritus sancti, expulso alite teterrimo, ita ad Noe quasi ad Christum in Jordane devolat, et ramo refectionis ac luminis, pacem orbi annuntiat.<br /><br />Et alibi:<br /><br />Noe inebriatus in domo sua et nudatus atque derisus a mediano filio, typum Andreas Meszaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08427763145710882785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-37562601059838227082019-11-01T23:37:11.899+00:002019-11-01T23:37:11.899+00:00Beside the Christological typology, might the Supr...Beside the Christological typology, might the <i>Supra quæ</i> be primarily Trinitarian? Is it that this prayer is so sweetly crafted to appeal to God the Father first by mentioning a type of His Son (for Abel is the good shepherd who, as you mention, offered a lamb, and who was murdered unresisting by his envious brother); next it references a type of the Father himself, the greatest of the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-10855101161247587372019-11-01T16:55:34.692+00:002019-11-01T16:55:34.692+00:00Moses, Aaron, Samuel, David and Zechariah are also...Moses, Aaron, Samuel, David and Zechariah are also mentioned in the Liturgy of St James, which doesn't seem to mention Abraham or Melkizedek. You are right I think in saying that the three Patriarchs mentioned in the supra quae all have something specific and peculiar to say about the sacrifice of Christ on the Cross and the sacrifice of the Mass. My first thought on the mention of Noah in Colin Spinkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06187466247865796371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-61537806815038353072019-11-01T15:51:47.067+00:002019-11-01T15:51:47.067+00:00Because of the getting drunk?Because of the getting drunk?Fr PJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597780307057121375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-13905355650528641872019-11-01T11:46:30.657+00:002019-11-01T11:46:30.657+00:00I got this from Wikipedia: "Noah is a given n...I got this from Wikipedia: "Noah is a given name and surname most likely derived from the Biblical figure Noah (נוֹחַ) in Hebrew. It is most likely of Babylonian and Assyrian origin from the word "nukhu" meaning repose or rest, which is possible in view of the Sumerian/Babylonian source of the flood story. Another explanation says that it is derived from the Hebrew root meaning &Fr Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15521671841072661886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-69950694651115454322019-11-01T11:37:27.319+00:002019-11-01T11:37:27.319+00:00This may or may not have any bearing on the canon...This may or may not have any bearing on the canon, but there is a subtle difference between the covenant after the flood in Gen 9 and the other stages of the covenant in the OT. The covenant is made not with Noah but with the whole of creation, sealed by the rainbow; he is merely a witness. PMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06144651697262763099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-89744296236375614132019-11-01T11:35:55.868+00:002019-11-01T11:35:55.868+00:00There is possible link to Noah. If we are to take ...There is possible link to Noah. If we are to take a look at the Aramaic Targums we find that Melchizedek was thought to be Shem, the son of Noah. Marco da Vinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06092410765851812842noreply@blogger.com