tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post3047654936060056221..comments2024-03-27T17:29:51.954+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: BlackfriarsFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-11480273597091527332010-11-05T18:11:41.292+00:002010-11-05T18:11:41.292+00:00Bravo!Bravo!Sir Watkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02000106556898498656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-1907207053607229662010-10-28T19:03:15.895+01:002010-10-28T19:03:15.895+01:00Hawker
Thank you for passing this on. If you are...Hawker<br /><br />Thank you for passing this on. If you are happy for me to do so I shall advertise the Mass on the blog "Catholicism Pure & Simple".The Raven (C. Corax)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08605347404726608685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-41911219058015069322010-10-28T10:20:00.859+01:002010-10-28T10:20:00.859+01:00Then I shall! And you must tell all your friends.
...Then I shall! And you must tell all your friends.<br /><br />Immaculate Conception, 7.30pm at Holy Cross Leicester.<br /><br />Pontifical High Mass at the Throne in the Extraordinary Form. Celebrant: + Malcolm McMahon, OP, Bishop of Nottingham. <br /><br />Followed by the blessing of a shrine to the English martyrs (in which relics abound)<br /><br />I'm trying to do as much advertising for Richard Hawkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08646408094986652564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-4545442862874049582010-10-27T22:42:02.055+01:002010-10-27T22:42:02.055+01:00Hawker
Thank you for this: can I add East Leake t...Hawker<br /><br />Thank you for this: can I add East Leake to your list; I understand that there is an old rite Mass said there every Saturday at 10h00.<br /><br />I haven't heard about the celebration of the Immaculate Conception, please do tell me more!The Raven (C. Corax)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08605347404726608685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-42967019516731856842010-10-27T10:02:22.224+01:002010-10-27T10:02:22.224+01:00Raven,
It was 2001 or 2002, I think when the Mass...Raven,<br /><br />It was 2001 or 2002, I think when the Mass started there, on a Wednesday evening; which, given that I was in full time education, was quite handy for me.<br /><br />Yes, we are very fortunate here. We also have Lauds at 7.30 to add to your envy!<br /><br />There are acctually a couple of places in the diocese- Scunthorpe has a Sunday Mass at Holy Souls at 3. I know the PP there Richard Hawkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08646408094986652564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-13731507655702708672010-10-26T21:54:59.217+01:002010-10-26T21:54:59.217+01:00Hawker
Thank you for the clarification: I now liv...Hawker<br /><br />Thank you for the clarification: I now live in a state of permanent envy of the lucky burghers of Leicester, who have access to the Mass every day at a reasonable time (08h00) and the provision of Vespers every day too.<br /><br />My recollection of the train of events is a little ramshackle, but I had thought that I remembered that the Leicester Priory started by saying the oldThe Raven (C. Corax)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08605347404726608685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-54044745059981720022010-10-26T17:25:12.671+01:002010-10-26T17:25:12.671+01:00To the Raven:
Yes that was the case, in the Summor...To the Raven:<br />Yes that was the case, in the Summorum Pontificum days- they started with the Dominican Rite, then switched to the Roman- my understanding was that it was due to the absence of permission of the Provincial; so they switched to the Roman. However, subsequently, individual Friars have been granted permission to say it, and do. I know of others that prefer, for now, to say the Richard Hawkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08646408094986652564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-80098776795457995872010-10-26T16:11:34.787+01:002010-10-26T16:11:34.787+01:00Here in America, friars in the Western Province ar...Here in America, friars in the Western Province are free to celebrate the Dominican rite Mass when they wish. There are a handful of churches where it is celebrated publicly on Sundays.<br /><br />General permission for friars in the Eastern Province is supposed to be coming soon. They already have a nice tutorial for it on their website:<br /><br />http://www.op-stjoseph.org/preaching/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-4033400595445975932010-10-26T08:38:33.032+01:002010-10-26T08:38:33.032+01:00One and half hours is not unusual for NO vernacula...One and half hours is not unusual for NO vernacular Mass. Institution of the Eucharist is now dominated by an interminable baby blessing ceremony.Sadie Vacantisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04823532366874114366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-40134424441577760162010-10-25T23:17:20.680+01:002010-10-25T23:17:20.680+01:00I don't think you can blame the organizers for...I don't think you can blame the organizers for this mass not being Dominican rite - each year, in the sacristy, we say that perhaps next year it can be Dominican ... I'm getting the impression that it would be impolitic, within the Order, for it to be so at the moment. But the younger Dominicans seem to know clearly what the differences would be, so I suspect it's only a matter of davidforsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603145004197815827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-76549721802673203112010-10-25T22:51:49.850+01:002010-10-25T22:51:49.850+01:00I understand that the Dominicans in Leicester were...I understand that the Dominicans in Leicester were asked by the Bishop (also a Dominican) to start saying the old Mass to fill a pastoral need (nothing at all to do with the SSPX setting up shop down the road, honest guv). <br /><br />The Leicester Dominicans originally started by saying Mass in the Dominican Rite, but I understand that Fr Radcliffe instructed them to use the Roman Rite instead.The Raven (C. Corax)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08605347404726608685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-14723765506531213732010-10-25T21:11:45.854+01:002010-10-25T21:11:45.854+01:00I do wish one of the more traditional Dominicans w...I do wish one of the more traditional Dominicans were closer by - I do prefer the Dominican Low Mass to the Roman, actually.<br /><br />Rather than spend ages over the Judica me, it's just a quick Confiteor &c. after mixing the chalice, then the Introit... the Offertory is similarly brief... the essential structure of the Roman Mass stands out more clearly.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-57704874971718862522010-10-25T18:06:38.920+01:002010-10-25T18:06:38.920+01:00When our usual priest is away, we occasionally hav...When our usual priest is away, we occasionally have a Dominican Low Mass in Cambridge at 9.15 on a Sunday morning at St Laurence's.Ceciliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02181882111548805146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-36252079361159205082010-10-25T09:48:26.265+01:002010-10-25T09:48:26.265+01:00I am happen to know that particular celebrant very...I am happen to know that particular celebrant very well indeed- I am his community's sacristan , and he also recieved me into the Church. I answer his Mass most days, which is in the Dominican Rite, and I can inform you, he does everything slowly and with great care, whether it is liturgical or not! Also it was my rather Pugin-esque Alb he was wearing for the Mass.<br /><br />I think the Richard Hawkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08646408094986652564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-2224003434503451362010-10-25T09:34:21.488+01:002010-10-25T09:34:21.488+01:00the silence then comes naturally. At a NO, it seem...<i>the silence then comes naturally. At a NO, it seems so contrived</i><br /><br />A most acute observation.Sir Watkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02000106556898498656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-63381241926060361252010-10-25T06:54:30.593+01:002010-10-25T06:54:30.593+01:00Amen to the speed issue. I love assisting at a Mas...Amen to the speed issue. I love assisting at a Mass (Low or High or whatever) in which the celebrant knows how to actually say the Mass. There is something truly beautiful about a well said Mass that clips right along. <br /><br />When I first attended the TLM, I thought it was "rushed" at first but then when my ear became more accustomed to Latin, I found that it was not rushed at all Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03286578491636129500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-58444081775740551842010-10-24T21:17:36.814+01:002010-10-24T21:17:36.814+01:00I know several Friars Preachers in Australia who c...I know several Friars Preachers in Australia who celebrate their Rite; as their Provincial said, if they are to use the EF, it ought be the Dominican, not the Roman.<br /><br />Yes, Dominican High Mass is rather fun, with the Mass of the Catechumens enlivened by lots of processions up to the altar to discover if there really is a chalice there under the veil, and, if so, what's in it...<br />Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-10931349359657430972010-10-24T16:04:18.894+01:002010-10-24T16:04:18.894+01:00I thought for a fleeting moment that E Bishop was ...I thought for a fleeting moment that E Bishop was an online liturgy course; thank God he's a scolar!pipesmokerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01494965701425044440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-83742293744564862922010-10-24T13:19:13.651+01:002010-10-24T13:19:13.651+01:00A cheering excerpt on Roger of Salisbury (d. 1139)...A cheering excerpt on Roger of Salisbury (d. 1139) from the old DNB:<br /><br />"The future king, Henry I, chanced, while riding out from Caen, to turn aside to this chapel to hear mass. Roger, guessing the temper of his audience, went through the service with such speed that they declared him the very man for a soldier's chaplain, and Henry took him into his service".Fr Daniel Lloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06710850572779826095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-41748543042010246442010-10-24T12:41:42.828+01:002010-10-24T12:41:42.828+01:00Oxford - and Paris too. A full Dominican Rite hig...Oxford - and Paris too. A full Dominican Rite high mass, F.Extraord. of course, has just been celebrated this morning at the incomparable parish church of Saint Eugène-Sainte Cècile in the 9th Arr, complete with authentic Dominican plainchant propers and ordinary. And the usual sprinkling of C18th (French) motets. Celebrant a priest of the Fraternité Saint-Vincent-Ferrier.<br /><br />The &Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com