tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post1216725135027182258..comments2024-03-29T01:24:45.251+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO 55 years on (1)Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-47558387513174480562019-06-14T22:54:20.243+01:002019-06-14T22:54:20.243+01:00This makes me think of J. H. Newman's harsh re...This makes me think of J. H. Newman's harsh remark, in one of his letters, on corporate reunion between the Anglican Church and the Catholic Church: "Why would a living body want to be joined to a dead body?" He also remarked that good in the Anglican Church comes from the members (the Holy Ghost acting within them in His mercy) but no Catholic who was in his right mind would say: &Fr PJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597780307057121375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-82651179539765903222019-06-14T17:01:25.407+01:002019-06-14T17:01:25.407+01:00Dear Fr. You are a George Herbert Walker Bush type...Dear Fr. You are a George Herbert Walker Bush type of priest in temperament - Kinder and gentler - whereas ABS is one who thinks that the schismatic heretics of the east have rather perfected their schism and as for the breathing with two lungs that Dear Father Hunwicke cited (in another post) the Catholic Church has always had two lungs and it would be a grave error for the Catholic Church to Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-14761059725582097442019-06-14T08:22:08.956+01:002019-06-14T08:22:08.956+01:00Dear ABS, I accept and embrace the dogma of univer...Dear ABS, I accept and embrace the dogma of universal, supreme (but not absolute!) jurisdiction of the Roman Pontiff. I think that the issue is the "imperfect" or incomplete schism of the East, as opposed to such a clean break as the Anglicans or the Chinese Commies.Fr PJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597780307057121375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-7478753616419640612019-06-13T13:26:22.645+01:002019-06-13T13:26:22.645+01:00Dear F PJM When it comes to knowledge about what ...Dear F PJM When it comes to knowledge about what he is considering, Fr H is the sun and ABS is a flint strike but, trying to not sound as noisy as a Honda being driven by a Millennial, ABS would say that what Fr. H references can be understood to resonate with the claims of authority asserted in Ad Sinarum gentem.Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-61298550692874529842019-06-12T13:55:28.265+01:002019-06-12T13:55:28.265+01:00The Catholic Church, it seems, implicitly and taci...The Catholic Church, it seems, implicitly and tacitly, but really has never withdrawn jurisdiction from Orthodox absolutions and, explicitly, marriages.Fr PJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597780307057121375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-84451204701648463292019-06-12T13:53:38.056+01:002019-06-12T13:53:38.056+01:00But, ABS, what Fr H has cited perhaps suggests tha...But, ABS, what Fr H has cited perhaps suggests that this applies to fresh, new *FORMAL* schismatics, such as Pope Pius XII was facing in China in his time. Is it really the position, has it always been the position of the Holy See that each and every Sacrament of the Orthodox is a sacrilege? For that matter, their preaching during the Divine Liturgy --preaching requires jurisdiction-- would be Fr PJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597780307057121375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-734642127414287542019-06-12T00:23:18.969+01:002019-06-12T00:23:18.969+01:00There is also Professor Lina Murr-Nehme, who holds...There is also Professor Lina Murr-Nehme, who holds that there was never a legal schism, even after the fall of Constantinople: "Constantinople 1453: Mohammed II Imposes the Orthodox Schism". The act of "schism" was null and void, according to Prof M-N.<br /><br />A.v.B.Albrecht von Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12996637489269911349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-27647796111208868212019-06-11T19:35:30.823+01:002019-06-11T19:35:30.823+01:00Dear Father. There is this to consider also:
AD A...Dear Father. There is this to consider also:<br /><br /><i>AD APOSTOLORUM PRINCIPIS<br /><br />40. And when We later addressed to you the letter Ad Sinarum gentem, <b>We again referred to this teaching in these words: The power of jurisdiction which is conferred directly by divine right on the Supreme Pontiff comes to bishops by that same right, but only through the successor of Peter, to whom Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-48494190646439693152019-06-11T17:20:55.287+01:002019-06-11T17:20:55.287+01:00I have heard that the meaning of the word ‘ecumeni...I have heard that the meaning of the word ‘ecumenical’, used by the Church from the beginning and ending with the Ecumenical Council of Vatcan I, is derived from the Greek word oikoumenikós - it’s meaning by the Church being ‘of the house’. Furthermore, all the ecumenical councils pre-Vatican II were based on correcting error and/or teaching doctrinal truths that all Christians ‘within the house’STARKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16245483373319178840noreply@blogger.com