tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post8999450322888565857..comments2024-03-29T09:39:50.604+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Nostra aetate; its authority; Judaism; good newsFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-27821855655447339212016-08-16T04:38:41.638+01:002016-08-16T04:38:41.638+01:00Eureka! Part of the Council's Acta has indeed...Eureka! Part of the Council's <i>Acta</i> has indeed been scanned and uploaded to The Internet Archive. Please, see:<br /><br />https://archive.org/details/@mhazell<br /><br />God bless "MHazell" -- who you are -- for having done this! Hopefully, more to come.<br />mwidunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865753469746747533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-77411713081572181952016-08-16T00:26:34.532+01:002016-08-16T00:26:34.532+01:00Eureka! Part of the Council's Acta has indeed...Eureka! Part of the Council's <i>Acta</i> has indeed been scanned and uploaded to The Internet Archive. Please, see:<br /><br />https://archive.org/details/@mhazell<br /><br />God bless "MHazell" -- who you are -- for having done this! Hopefully, more to come.mwidunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865753469746747533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-59646838227285526532016-08-14T00:42:46.872+01:002016-08-14T00:42:46.872+01:00The Head of the Secretariat at the time would have...The Head of the Secretariat at the time would have been Augustine Card. Bea.<br /><br />Presumably, his speech is contained in the <i>Acta Synodalia</i>, which (as far as I know) is not available on-line.<br /><br />A great, GREAT contribution to the Church would be for someone or some organization with the resources to translate the Council's <i>Acta</i> into one or more modern languages.mwidunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865753469746747533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-58623579927930453962016-08-13T21:23:00.029+01:002016-08-13T21:23:00.029+01:00I think the reason we hear so little about any goo...I think the reason we hear so little about any good news is that it's drowned out by all the bad news. Pope Francis continuously says off-the-cuff things that the vast liberal Catholic media machine (including many people in the pews) take as support for their errant agendas (recognition of homosexuality as a blessing, divorce and remarriage are OK, etc.) The effect is frightening as we IloveJesushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07602840226548273692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-47026976144833428082016-08-12T20:45:56.694+01:002016-08-12T20:45:56.694+01:00Father,
Not at all. Jews are heretics because t...Father, <br /><br />Not at all. Jews are heretics because they deny the Divinity of Christ, and should be told so. Catholicism is the culmination and completion of the Jewish Old Testament some of the writings of which which go back for centuries before AD. <br /><br />Therefore, Catholicism is a Judeo /Christian religion. <br /><br />“whom God in His inexpressible mercy concluded the Ancient Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-43509932674521429642016-08-12T20:17:44.310+01:002016-08-12T20:17:44.310+01:00delete the second not!delete the second not!Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-43226454530382554612016-08-12T20:17:03.006+01:002016-08-12T20:17:03.006+01:00Dear Jacobi
If you are trying to tell me that I s...Dear Jacobi<br /><br />If you are trying to tell me that I should subscribe to the new dogma that the Jews are the only race to whom the Gospel is not allowed to not be taken, then my reply is negative. If what you are suggesting is not that, then perhaps you could try to persuade some elements in Judaism to stop making this demand and to give up their bullying tactics. If all elements in JudaismFr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-55402000054256576892016-08-12T14:12:33.337+01:002016-08-12T14:12:33.337+01:00Father,
May I also say something regarding Jewry...Father, <br /><br />May I also say something regarding Jewry. The link between Catholicism and Judaism is close. Christ and the Apostles were Jews. St Gregory the Great went to some lengths to correct the anti-Jewishness which had already, wrongly emerged in the earlier centuries, but this resumed again later.<br /><br />There is no place in Catholicism for anti-Jewishness and we must each of Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-63837108327848304192016-08-12T14:12:32.731+01:002016-08-12T14:12:32.731+01:00Father,
May I also say something regarding Jewry...Father, <br /><br />May I also say something regarding Jewry. The link between Catholicism and Judaism is close. Christ and the Apostles were Jews. St Gregory the Great went to some lengths to correct the anti-Jewishness which had already, wrongly emerged in the earlier centuries, but this resumed again later.<br /><br />There is no place in Catholicism for anti-Jewishness and we must each of Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-52774150615280113022016-08-12T12:59:48.414+01:002016-08-12T12:59:48.414+01:00Conciliar documents are models of clarity if they ...Conciliar documents are models of clarity if they have a doublemeaning, as some efforts have one sentence clause contradicted by the next. Why can they not write clear texts in these troubled post Conciliar times? Thanks Father for the post.Prayerfulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01561992635589480308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-82169300220853621052016-08-12T12:56:15.680+01:002016-08-12T12:56:15.680+01:00Some Conciliar and post Conciliar documents are mo...Some Conciliar and post Conciliar documents are models of clarity if they have double-meaning, because they can have far more than two meanings. There seems to be no worry about writing confusing and contradictory texts. There can be certain topics which are not binary, yes/no issues, but there are no excuses for sentences which one clause is contradicted by the next clause. Thank you again Fr. IPrayerfulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01561992635589480308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-22156095208802496462016-08-12T01:56:23.405+01:002016-08-12T01:56:23.405+01:00Since technically the last part of your third para...Since technically the last part of your third paragraph was about the Conference, punctuation aside, my first run-in with your closing Greek (as I only later found it to be) had me wondering if "despot of the chickens" was an appropriate description, whether for its head or its members. But now, if I am correct(ed), let me concur: <i>ad multos annos, magister</i>.Disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13674123955738617768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-26810459474641152802016-08-11T22:48:23.593+01:002016-08-11T22:48:23.593+01:00Nostra Aetate is one of the several Vat II documen...Nostra Aetate is one of the several Vat II documents which contain error. The New Testament is the confirmation of the Old Testament. That is clear and but is not the error I refer to.<br /><br />That error is with regard to Islam “They adore the one God” They do not. They adore a pagan God thought up by their founder. True, the document goes on to say that Islam is a heresy, but it should Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-28131137031497528792016-08-11T22:36:52.632+01:002016-08-11T22:36:52.632+01:00I suspect Donald Trump is responsible for the chan...I suspect Donald Trump is responsible for the change of tone starting to emerge ... <br /><br />The most comical episode of this 'weird papacy' (sic) was F1 declaring during one of those in-flight press conferences that the Donald, now on to his 3rd underwear model, didn't sound like much of a Christian because of his proposal to build a garden wall at the bottom of his country's Sadie Vacantisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04823532366874114366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-45069571861016164782016-08-11T19:55:37.375+01:002016-08-11T19:55:37.375+01:00Clarification:
I'm a orthodox Catholic blogg...Clarification: <br /><br />I'm a orthodox Catholic blogger who attends the new Mass. The comment made it sound like I was a traditionalist of the non radical type.<br /><br />I love the Latin Mass.My mother said attending it was like being in heaven.<br /><br />I know many orthodox Catholics like myself (who attend the new Mass for the most part) and Orthodox Catholic media types are open to Fred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-70247357049582177432016-08-11T17:43:52.308+01:002016-08-11T17:43:52.308+01:00I consider this good news - that Mons Lefebvre sig...I consider this good news - that Mons Lefebvre signed all of the documents of Vatican Two which means that all of them - each one of them - can be reconciled with Tradition and I know that to be true for the traditionalists I know consider Mons Lefebvre to be the apotheosis of Tradition.<br /><br />Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-78770821753242798332016-08-11T16:55:21.826+01:002016-08-11T16:55:21.826+01:00Thank you for this. I wrote a piece on the covenan...Thank you for this. I wrote a piece on the covenant between God and the Jewish people here which may be of interest: http://www.onepeterfive.com/catholic-church-conversion-jews/.John Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12689601844788629693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-54967941082821873432016-08-11T15:59:20.358+01:002016-08-11T15:59:20.358+01:00Pozzo's statement is the first time any Vatica...Pozzo's statement is the first time any Vatican official since Vatican II has said that N.A.,Gaudium et Spes, Dignitatis Humanae Personae do not "demand submission." <br /><br />As Sire's "Phoenix from the Ashes" says that "question was one which Paul VI and the official Church did not want to hear raised." <br /><br />The Church it appears has "imposed&Fred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-77663860167608234042016-08-11T13:35:05.486+01:002016-08-11T13:35:05.486+01:00More good news is this rather awkwardly translated...More good news is this rather awkwardly translated piece from Msgr Antonio Livi: http://eponymousflower.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/msgr-antonio-livi-this-pope-lets-public.htmlWoodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08910654300435533408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-62533486327620855212016-08-11T13:29:14.546+01:002016-08-11T13:29:14.546+01:00Pozzo's clarifications are, indeed, very welco...Pozzo's clarifications are, indeed, very welcome--a signal, perhaps, of a more realistic assessment of Vatican II and its fruits in the future. It's true, of course, that Pozzo's words were more for the benefit of anyone in SSPX who might be listening than for (extra?)ordinary Catholics. Will SSPX be reassured? Perhaps. But then again they may next seek clarification on where the mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12847411975641738898noreply@blogger.com