tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post7600019585888652609..comments2024-03-28T14:19:53.973+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Rowan Williams on "the Celtic Church"Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-25591445567950701252018-01-22T18:03:54.232+00:002018-01-22T18:03:54.232+00:00The British also, I believe, invented Afghanistan,...The British also, I believe, invented Afghanistan, thus leading to a generation's-long farce in which various Western powers futilely attempt to fight a was in a country which does not exist.SouthCoasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01326868708423828532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-4156650039394339132018-01-13T21:06:25.254+00:002018-01-13T21:06:25.254+00:00"The Lombards were a Germanic tribe, actually..."The Lombards were a Germanic tribe, actually." Only inasmuch as nearly all the tribes labelled "Germanic" in the Middle Ages were descended in no small measure by pre-Christian Celtic tribes, such as the Suevi, a large group of whom were the long-beards.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12833345391579579562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-80874791526479949602018-01-12T06:12:49.353+00:002018-01-12T06:12:49.353+00:00I thought tbey were Teutons. In particular, the L...I thought tbey were Teutons. In particular, the Lombards.Albrecht von Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12996637489269911349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-3442757823753164582018-01-12T05:59:28.088+00:002018-01-12T05:59:28.088+00:00I thought tbey were Teutons. In particular, the L...I thought tbey were Teutons. In particular, the Lombards.Albrecht von Brandenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12996637489269911349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-89737386328973037672018-01-11T15:57:24.711+00:002018-01-11T15:57:24.711+00:00I do wish Blogger permitted us to register approva...I do wish Blogger permitted us to register approval/disapproval in varying quantities. There's lots here in original post and comment that I'l have like to 'like'.Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-33777866860073196452018-01-11T14:44:54.885+00:002018-01-11T14:44:54.885+00:00One may argue that the division of peoples, the cr...One may argue that the division of peoples, the creation of borders and nations by the colonizing nations has led us to many an unfortunate and bloody war. Not to mention the divisions of Europe during the reformation as well.Capt. Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10997683380407192175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-9860908718317973592018-01-11T12:08:51.177+00:002018-01-11T12:08:51.177+00:00"those wild and crazy Celts, the Lombardi tri... "those wild and crazy Celts, the Lombardi tribe, for which Lombardy,Italy is named for example"<br /><br />The Lombards were a Germanic tribe, actually.William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09043433059401608468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-36229836881953264252018-01-10T23:42:46.832+00:002018-01-10T23:42:46.832+00:00China definitely had a national identity before th...China definitely had a national identity before the Europeans came along, at least among the educated classes, who could afford to worry about such things. Ditto Russia; I think in their case national identity originated mostly in fighting the non-Christian nomads to the south and east. India we have a better claim to creating, since for most of their history northern and southern India have beenGaiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13683100808581061355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-28782760379480181992018-01-10T23:38:50.238+00:002018-01-10T23:38:50.238+00:00There's a great scene towards the end of "...There's a great scene towards the end of "Lawrence of Arabia" in which Lawrence says that he is working not for Prince Faisal, but for "the Arabs". Auda abu Tayi incredulously replies, "The Arabs? The Howitat, Ajili, Rala, Beni Saha; these I know. I have even heard of the Harif, but the Arabs? What tribe is that?"Chattohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488939389859451887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-80477925023840728552018-01-10T22:53:08.016+00:002018-01-10T22:53:08.016+00:00How far back do you want to go? The ancient Roman...How far back do you want to go? The ancient Roman legions of the republic shuddered at the prospect of fighting the Celts more than even Hannibal and his crew. And some of them stayed all over Europe. After all, it was those wild and crazy Celts, the Lombardi tribe, for which Lombardy,Italy is named for example. West of the Rhine, south of the Danube, all those Celts were assimilated into the Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12833345391579579562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-3656357422079832222018-01-10T21:44:01.375+00:002018-01-10T21:44:01.375+00:00Two words: Wendy Davies.Two words: Wendy Davies.Tony Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10862727279147129707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-1195152300650390582018-01-10T21:04:07.922+00:002018-01-10T21:04:07.922+00:00Bede himself was inventing the English people. I e...Bede himself was inventing the English people. I expect there were very considerable differences between the dialects spoken in the various kingdoms, which were often at war one with another. Bede's great-grandparents (maybe his grandparents) would have been pagans, so he had a chip on his shoulder about that as well.E sapelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09886268559214926797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-73989989560810259112018-01-10T19:46:11.277+00:002018-01-10T19:46:11.277+00:00If I may, this is something I wrote recently as pa...If I may, this is something I wrote recently as part of an introduction to translations of Tang dynasty Chinese poetry (!):<br /><br />"China is not so much a country as an empire. Even though the majority racial group, who call themselves “Han”, are socially dominant, it includes a large number of ethnic and cultural identities welded into a single super-state across vast swathes of East Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-61017991704219474172018-01-10T14:39:42.620+00:002018-01-10T14:39:42.620+00:00There is a very interesting and informative series...There is a very interesting and informative series on PBS at present – “The Story of China”. In so many ways assorted dynasties were far ahead of the West hundreds of years ago. But they tended to “keep to themselves” and had scant interest in the world outside their borders. At one time it could have been called ‘Greater Mongolia’…GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-60631700097871384872018-01-10T14:34:55.938+00:002018-01-10T14:34:55.938+00:00I drew upon Dr Williams' Introduction to Bede&...I drew upon Dr Williams' Introduction to Bede's Ecclesiastical History of the English People: An introduction and selection compiled by Benedicta Ward and edited by Rowan Williams, published by Bloomsbury/Continuum in 2012.Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-56081818265761179752018-01-10T13:13:56.951+00:002018-01-10T13:13:56.951+00:00"I wonder if we invented India and China too&..."I wonder if we invented India and China too"<br /><br />An Indian friend once told me that yes, the British did invent India (in the same sense that we "invented" the Celts and Africa, of inventing a concept of a single identity for what was actually a large and diverse region).<br /><br />He said it was the best thing we did for them.<br /><br />Not sure about China though.RichardThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16761130714944237699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-14363561819879964412018-01-10T12:36:35.431+00:002018-01-10T12:36:35.431+00:00What is the source of Dr. Williams's clear an...<br />What is the source of Dr. Williams's clear and cogent critique?William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09043433059401608468noreply@blogger.com