tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post7042075761327959022..comments2024-03-27T17:29:51.954+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Germanic SchismsFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-27959772137711065342018-02-15T00:28:50.365+00:002018-02-15T00:28:50.365+00:00It seems that the Vatican’s ‘dialogue’ with the Co...It seems that the Vatican’s ‘dialogue’ with the Communist Chinese regime is similar to that of its pre-WWII negotiations with Nazi Germany – and it may have the same result. It should have been evident to the diplomatic ‘experts’ in Rome that ‘giving an inch’ to the Chinese regime is not going to result in better treatment for the Chinese Catholic faithful.<br /><br />Rather, as with the Nazis, GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-63476693944724885622018-02-14T21:55:42.085+00:002018-02-14T21:55:42.085+00:00The decree which brought the new practice referred...The decree which brought the new practice referred to by Marcus of practically excommunicating non-tax payers without actually excommunicating them was recognized by the Congregation for the Bishops (August 28, 2012). Therefore the Vatican seems to be OK with this, paradoxical though it seems (the state is not competent to receive a declaration of apostasy, so you do not incur the sentence of Protasiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13513744611326784368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-74199038883002927712018-02-14T21:40:10.495+00:002018-02-14T21:40:10.495+00:00Meanwhile over in Clarification Land, Fr Ruttler h...Meanwhile over in Clarification Land, Fr Ruttler has an excellent article on the American fudge made by that well-known manufacturer Cupich & Co.<br />https://www.crisismagazine.com/2018/clarity-cardinal-cupich<br />By the way, did you know that tablet is a form of Scottish fudge.Highland Cathedralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07519428794618769856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-78222807034429186392018-02-14T21:25:38.536+00:002018-02-14T21:25:38.536+00:00If I live in say, Munich, and I stop paying the Ch...If I live in say, Munich, and I stop paying the Church Tax I can see how the Church could deprive my children of baptism or a requiem Mass for myself but how would they deprive me of Confession or Communion. Confession is anonymous so how would the priest know who you are? if you think he would recognise your voice then all you have to is go to another church a few miles away. Same with CommunionHighland Cathedralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07519428794618769856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-40993084531538120522018-02-14T21:13:09.922+00:002018-02-14T21:13:09.922+00:00Re: Ecclesia Dei communities, surely it is no surp...Re: Ecclesia Dei communities, surely it is no surprise that nobody is signing up to be the next Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate?<br /><br />Re: Abp. Chaput, I am delighted by his skill in snark. Cf. his use of "paradigm", "ideal", etc. I will have to see how many of my own concordats I can smash.KaeseEshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07163030641791132729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-47430915369738580652018-02-14T20:57:11.987+00:002018-02-14T20:57:11.987+00:0030 years ago in Austria I was taught a decl...30 years ago in Austria I was taught a declaration about church membership to a civil authority does not affect one's part of a sacramental communionnicholashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02806085865237729342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-34575295260928026332018-02-14T18:50:45.956+00:002018-02-14T18:50:45.956+00:00"As I understand it ... correct me if I'm..."As I understand it ... correct me if I'm wrong ... in Germany, if you withdraw from paying your Church Tax, the Marxenkirche (correct me if I've got my German wrong) will excommunicate you."<br />I am sorry to say, but you are wrong :-). The Pontifical Council for Interpretation of Legilative texts reprimanded the German Conference of Bishops (for the whole story the keyword isMarcus, der mit dem Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04988145321852138085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-31402711986762647592018-02-14T15:06:32.361+00:002018-02-14T15:06:32.361+00:00In Germany, while in theory opting out of Kirchens...In Germany, while in theory opting out of Kirchensteuer (church tax) makes a person ineligible for church's ministration such as funeral, baptism, marriage and confirmation etc, in reality few priests withdraw their services simply over non-payment of church tax. Of course it's not a satisfactory situation and faithful are urged not to opt out, as it's a vital source of income Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06691013377891439409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-83404123137937202922018-02-14T14:47:54.986+00:002018-02-14T14:47:54.986+00:00Archbishop Chaput is unquestionably the strong man...Archbishop Chaput is unquestionably the strong man of the US bishops bench now, and the breadth of his reading is almost mind boggling considering his pastoral duties. And I would note from personal experience that he is a very kind man who can take the time to engage in personal correspondence with laity not otherwise known to him. He is the epitome of an orthodox and pastoral shepherd. May God Woodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08910654300435533408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-31829339892515201682018-02-14T13:23:29.538+00:002018-02-14T13:23:29.538+00:00It seems that the masters of the V2 Church have st...It seems that the masters of the V2 Church have studied Cranmer and learned lessons. They may not have the police arm of the State to back them up, but the tactics seem very similar--carrot and stick judiciously wielded to bring the faithful into ... complicity and thus into an uneasy compliance. In my own archdiocese I'm told that priests were instructed long ago that there were to be no mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12847411975641738898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-14741954865468233652018-02-14T12:28:19.496+00:002018-02-14T12:28:19.496+00:00[...]in Germany, if you withdraw from paying your ...<i>[...]in Germany, if you withdraw from paying your Church Tax, the Marxenkirche (correct me if I've got my German wrong) will excommunicate you.</i><br /><br />Withdrawing from the Church Tax means going to a notary or the registry office and signing an official paper. The registry office then passes on the information. The signing is probably considered similar to declaring publicly thatNemohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861427749178847179noreply@blogger.com