tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post6925161884784638041..comments2024-03-28T14:19:53.973+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: EcumenismFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-79821851975942284362010-12-30T18:31:45.811+00:002010-12-30T18:31:45.811+00:00Speaking of oecumenical theology, measuring up to ...Speaking of oecumenical theology, measuring up to the standards of the Christian East, it is my understanding that the Eastern Orthodox do not regard as valid the Canon of Addai and Mari sans ''Words of Consecration''. I am convinced that this sad decision by the rather shaky magisterium of John Paul II will one day either be quietly put to rest - like Decr. ad Armenos, and a hostAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-89139439296129685482010-12-30T13:29:10.611+00:002010-12-30T13:29:10.611+00:00Ad fontes.
My reaction to the modern word "e...Ad fontes.<br /><br />My reaction to the modern word "ecumenical" is also to gag. But it is worth remembering that the word is actually quite old, and that ecumenism did not always mean fooling the faithful into agreeing with heretics and making paper unions where none existed. It once meant examining real unions in order to better understand their basis.<br /><br />Would I be too Figulushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13549064050271896212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-55914271743176480982010-12-30T11:07:55.564+00:002010-12-30T11:07:55.564+00:00Yes, David; but if you look at the actual text of ...Yes, David; but if you look at the actual text of the Decretum you will find that you have a lot of trouble fitting your view of what he 'must have meant' into what he actually says.<br /><br />My suspicion is that at that time people had very insecure information about distant Christian communities.Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-32276643833863484162010-12-30T01:33:10.974+00:002010-12-30T01:33:10.974+00:00I just wish Taft could have the same respect for t...I just wish Taft could have the same respect for traditional Roman Liturgy as he has for the Eastern rites.Juliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06893150601023369479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-66922074022460260582010-12-29T17:53:10.522+00:002010-12-29T17:53:10.522+00:00Taft's "Principles of Ecumenical Theology...Taft's "Principles of Ecumenical Theology" rest on the identification of an "undivided church". This is a myth. The Catholic Church by its very nature is a unity. By contrast Christians have, regrettably, always had divisions. Those who appeal to the "undivided church of the first millennium" are simply airbrushing out the oriental churches.<br /><br />The DecreeDavidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03569087285417949770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-41569499307064010852010-12-29T13:23:59.132+00:002010-12-29T13:23:59.132+00:00Excellent point about the decree to the Armenians....Excellent point about the decree to the Armenians. I did a quick search through Google books and found this from the Church Quarterly Review in 1876:<br /><br />"English theologians, in dealing with Roman theologians in England, who dispute the validity of Anglican Orders, have merely tenaciously to hold before them this Decretum pro Armeniis, and to remind them that those who live in glass Claudio Salvuccihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08831694822879009083noreply@blogger.com