tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post619831983296508921..comments2024-03-29T01:24:45.251+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: The Rosary: alternative Mysteries??Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-76595903522441711752022-11-07T21:48:16.997+00:002022-11-07T21:48:16.997+00:00Moritz Gruber, I am in complete agreement with you...Moritz Gruber, I am in complete agreement with your last post, but it is unclear to me why I should have received an e-mail stating that it was directed toward me. My sole contribution to this discussion was a response to Stephen Cooper's characterization of belief in the death of the Mother of God as "foolish".Bernonensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10772125603656588404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-15843994019683178502022-11-05T12:50:20.986+00:002022-11-05T12:50:20.986+00:00Pope Pius XII was quite right to not accidentally ...Pope Pius XII was quite right to not accidentally co-dogmatize a thing that was not the point of his dogma. In that days, they took care about such things, as they should.<br /><br />So, the Church before 1950 taught below the level of dogma that Our Lady a) died and b) then went to Heaven body and soul. Pope Pius XII made a dogma out of b). Why would he make one of a)? You make dogmata about Moritz Gruberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06313974490621703071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-1220012745010225852021-12-02T08:13:35.695+00:002021-12-02T08:13:35.695+00:00Christ was free from sin yet he died. Mary being b...Christ was free from sin yet he died. Mary being being immaculate doesn't mean she didn't suffer.DANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06569992672643026840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-39273415002819500992021-08-13T13:09:59.546+01:002021-08-13T13:09:59.546+01:00Is there anyway that I could see your translated p...Is there anyway that I could see your translated prayer books? A pdf maybe? I’d be more than happy to pay.Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11718284806396908388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-57512731735443296952020-08-15T02:23:31.883+01:002020-08-15T02:23:31.883+01:00I read today in an 18th Century English prayerbook...I read today in an <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=2A1hAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA455" rel="nofollow">18th Century English prayerbook</a> that the fifteenth mystery is "the glory of the saints," and that one should meditate on it by saying "and bleſſed is the Fruit of thy Womb, Jeſus, Who crowns all the Saints." Quite surprising, especially since I consulted a <a href="httpsCalvin Engimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598204520857427596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-25359479572569309982020-06-20T20:15:41.097+01:002020-06-20T20:15:41.097+01:00Banshee, on this feast of the Irish martyrs (bumpe...Banshee, on this feast of the Irish martyrs (bumped by the Immaculate Heart of Mary, not that they would mind), I think you may have solved a "mystery" for me.<br /><br />I've always wondered why many Irish and Jews bear the same first name: Daniel, Michael, Jeremiah, Joseph, and so on. Israelis even have a "functional equivalent" of Joseph in the name Yossi, just as the frjustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109539584303934489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-19621925585465318472020-06-20T16:05:07.183+01:002020-06-20T16:05:07.183+01:00ccc - Lots of people act like the Rosary is mandat...ccc - Lots of people act like the Rosary is mandatory, and the Dominican Rosary at that. And boy, you should have seen some of the people who wrote to me, when I translated an early 1800's Irish prayerbook, and let them know the particular older Irish format for the "Rosary for the Dead" was totally different than the ones currently used. <br /><br />Some people are very worried if Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-25734714702933287672020-06-20T15:56:43.383+01:002020-06-20T15:56:43.383+01:00Stephen Cooper -- I had a lot of trouble with this...Stephen Cooper -- I had a lot of trouble with this too, as my school went a little too far down the road of the late medieval poets. But then I did research.<br /><br />It's probably a permissible theological opinion that Mary didn't die -- in the West. But in the East, it's pretty clear that she did. That's why there's a Feast of the Dormition. <br /><br />All the older and Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-81303260264350819762020-06-20T15:51:34.953+01:002020-06-20T15:51:34.953+01:00Not to diss Joseph, but the prevalence of various ...Not to diss Joseph, but the prevalence of various saints' names as Baptismal names in Ireland, from the 1600's on, has a direct correlation to entirely different Irish saints' names. <br /><br />Because if you could get baptized, post-Trent priests were reluctant to use saints' names that weren't on the Roman calendar. So the Irish used similar-sounding "functional Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-42860584976818797372020-06-17T20:50:12.895+01:002020-06-17T20:50:12.895+01:00I think my biggest problem with the proffer of the...I think my biggest problem with the proffer of the "Luminous Mysteries" is not that Pope JP II proposed them himself, but people now act as if they are somehow mandatory. For decades, during Lent, I have prayed the 5 decades in honor of the Sacred Wounds and meditated upon those, though I would never push it on others.<br /><br />It's pushed on my children at school, it's ccchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02889272634837091761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-60298986217427592192020-06-17T16:20:36.863+01:002020-06-17T16:20:36.863+01:00I am not a theologian but it seems to me that deat...I am not a theologian but it seems to me that death in this context refers to spiritual death. For example in John 6:49-50 Jesus says "Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is the bread that comes down from heaven, that a man may eat of it and not die" (RSV-CE). We do not cease to die when we receive the Eucharist; instead we get eternal life and are raised John Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352405449391514146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-6140497830079368352020-06-17T14:53:07.332+01:002020-06-17T14:53:07.332+01:00Is it foolish to think that Christ underwent death...Is it foolish to think that Christ underwent death? Why not the woman who, of all mankind, comes closest to him in every way?Bernonensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10772125603656588404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-74495959824583896242020-06-17T11:37:41.418+01:002020-06-17T11:37:41.418+01:00'Faithless'? The faith we professs in the ...'Faithless'? The faith we professs in the creeds is in the resurrection, is it not? Was Pius XII also 'faithless' for leaving the question open? PMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06144651697262763099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-63946481136084371682020-06-17T06:06:56.062+01:002020-06-17T06:06:56.062+01:00I am one of those people who pray for the suppress...I am one of those people who pray for the suppression of the Jesuit Order, for obvious reasons (all of them well-meaning towards individual Jesuits), but that being said, while I do not have it in my heart to pray for the suppression of the Dominican Order, I feel so sad for the Dominican Order, with their faithless doctrines regarding the Mother of their Lord.<br /><br />How foolish does one stephen cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277962223155674985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-3012730102669690242020-06-16T15:19:19.061+01:002020-06-16T15:19:19.061+01:00Dear Rashad bin Abu Rashad,
The Blessed Virgin&#...Dear Rashad bin Abu Rashad, <br /><br />The Blessed Virgin's death is not a matter of faith. The dogma, as Pius XII defined it, leaves open the question of whether the Theotokos died. What Catholics must believe is<br />that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary<br /><br />"when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory."frjustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109539584303934489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-91476304578450890882020-06-15T23:15:24.549+01:002020-06-15T23:15:24.549+01:00As late as 1577, St Peter Canisius says that the C...As late as 1577, St Peter Canisius says that the Coronation of the Virgin is "usually" the fifteenth meditation—evidently it had then very nearly completed its supplantation of the last judgement. (Anne Winston-Allen, <i>Stories of the Rose</i>, Pennsylvania State University Press 1997, p. 60, citing Franz Willam, <i>Die Geschichte und Gebetsschule des Rosenkranzes</i>, Herder 1948, p. Calvin Engimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598204520857427596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-8689915404113323792020-06-15T17:10:55.570+01:002020-06-15T17:10:55.570+01:00My copy of The Secret of the Rosary published by T...My copy of The Secret of the Rosary published by TAN has some differences. The Second Mystery lacks the line about Saint John the Baptist, and the Fourteenth Mystery reads "We offer thee, O Lord Jesus, this fourteenth decade in honor of the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption of Thy holy and Blessed Mother, body and soul, into Heaven, and we ask of Thee, through these two mysteries and Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11330220545971658715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-90702903600133020162020-06-15T17:07:17.848+01:002020-06-15T17:07:17.848+01:00In terms of "methods" suggested by St. L...In terms of "methods" suggested by St. Louis de Monfort, a fruitful one for me has been his suggestion of adding a "clause" referencing the particular mystery after the name of Jesus in the first part of each Hail Mary (ex. The Ascension; "Jesus ascending to heaven"). You could also add a similar clause after "Mother of God" referencing one of her titles Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00202156079831053710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-17406324534034045752020-06-15T16:36:56.124+01:002020-06-15T16:36:56.124+01:00Now THAT (your last paragraph) would be a glory fo...Now THAT (your last paragraph) would be a glory for Holy Mother Church!Josephus Muris Saliensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10888638147153175697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-49329413292354542532020-06-15T15:15:54.757+01:002020-06-15T15:15:54.757+01:00Dear Father Hunwicke,
Have you ever come across t...Dear Father Hunwicke,<br /><br />Have you ever come across this method?<br />http://www.preces-latinae.org/thesaurus/BVM/HortulusRosarium.html <br />It's from a popular 16th century prayerbook. Each Ave gets a distinct clausula instead of each decade. <br /><br />Cheers,<br />Eric LevequeErichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03413293586817509121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-44055197715943033652020-06-15T13:27:10.116+01:002020-06-15T13:27:10.116+01:00I did not know that the Theotokos is held to have ...I did not know that the Theotokos is held to have died then *risen* - I'm again astonished, that after all these decades, and all my reading (far more than most laymen, and probably many priests) that I am still learning essential, what should be commonly known things about the faith. <br /><br />I was once told by one Orthodox priest that the Assumption and Dormition are different fitzhamiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01852672798351791749noreply@blogger.com