tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post5959605366613883682..comments2024-03-29T09:39:50.604+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Anglican ClergyFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-34364141511920044822009-10-30T19:51:40.964+00:002009-10-30T19:51:40.964+00:00In a former life I was the Catholic chaplain to a ...In a former life I was the Catholic chaplain to a large hospital in the North of England. The Anglican chaplain - ‘Geoffrey’ - was of the Low Church persuasion and we would run into one another on occasion on the hospital campus (we both drove the same model and color of car – which caused some confusion for the staff as to which of us was ‘onsite’ at any given time…).<br /><br />Once, as I GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-59420606769897836182009-10-29T20:34:08.317+00:002009-10-29T20:34:08.317+00:00Please - I spoke only of my very limited knowledge...Please - I spoke only of my very limited knowledge of things in Australia.<br /><br />Here in Tasmania, the local Anglican Bishop is a very very Low Church fellow, who's been laying hands on hastily retrained ex-policemen and others, whom he's made a sort of second-grade part-time clergy for rural areas, with limited licences. He's also let it be known he opposes all wearing of Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-4953385388394309952009-10-29T18:20:31.690+00:002009-10-29T18:20:31.690+00:00A glance through Crockford's Clerical Director...A glance through Crockford's Clerical Directory would rapidly disabuse one of the impression that Anglican clergy are "stunningly ill-educated" as Joshua says. Even now after years of decline rhe number of graduates of good universities is impressive. In secular learning they certainly are more impressive than their catholic counterparts. However whether they are better trained is Independenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08199774656279385253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-7475596895669484452009-10-29T14:30:25.932+00:002009-10-29T14:30:25.932+00:00Joshua,
NSM is an acronym for non-stipendiary min...Joshua,<br /><br />NSM is an acronym for non-stipendiary minister i.e. they are not a rector or vicar with an income from their church. Clergy on the cheap perhaps some would say, but often those who have had other careers and come into ministry later in life, and have other means.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-65053369569578858252009-10-29T08:01:11.560+00:002009-10-29T08:01:11.560+00:00Forgive my ignorance, but as a Catholic impatientl...Forgive my ignorance, but as a Catholic impatiently waiting for these Ordinariates to be set up (for the glory of God salvation of souls, and - purely selfishly - for me to be able to have a traditional local Mass at last), I have no idea what an NSM is: of your charity, please enlighten me.<br /><br />(I must say, I have heard that here in Australia the Anglican clergy can be stunningly Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-38816815961070038982009-10-29T02:13:08.093+00:002009-10-29T02:13:08.093+00:00Freemasons are, so I understand, individually self...<i>Freemasons are, so I understand, individually self-excommunicated.</i><br /><br />This was true under the old Code of Canon Law, but is no longer the case. Nonetheless, it is considered a grave sin by the RCC - confirmed by Cardinal Ratzinger himself - so those who have previously been part of the Craft will have to abjure their involvement. (Let's hope Oxford's Apollo can cope with _https://www.blogger.com/profile/10739893229122217454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-6905912409622874422009-10-28T21:09:58.065+00:002009-10-28T21:09:58.065+00:00I suppose it all depends what you mean by 'Ang...I suppose it all depends what you mean by 'Anglo-Catholic'. The Anglo-Catholic formation I received stressed the need for auricular confession for 'serious matter', my priest pointed out the difference between cleaning windows with a hosepipe and polishing each pane with a chamois leather. (He also warned me that the C of E had an awful lot of Protestants in chasubles.)motupropriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261356560114077508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-68088502032673747342009-10-28T20:57:36.076+00:002009-10-28T20:57:36.076+00:00Two issues. First, many Anglo Catholic laypeople d...Two issues. First, many Anglo Catholic laypeople do not go to auricular confession, preferring, according to Anglican tradition, to join in the General Confession. This is not just a matter of personal preference, and may present a serious obstacle if they are required to attend auricular confession. Second, Freemasonry is not merely a proscribed organisation. Freemasons are, so I understand, Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09108577049671602028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-27957134368693824862009-10-28T16:05:42.230+00:002009-10-28T16:05:42.230+00:00Not sure what you're a so afraid of. If you...Not sure what you're a so afraid of. If you're called to Communion with the Holy See then that's what matters. Questions of ordination follow later. As a FAC I really don't understand what all this talk of bad treatment by Catholic bishops is all about. Most of us FACS were treated with kindness, respect and amazing generosity. I would never have dared put the kind of 'Mauricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02262499349555966043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-16337910376170367202009-10-28T16:00:31.643+00:002009-10-28T16:00:31.643+00:00I agree with all your correspondents.
Have you no...I agree with all your correspondents.<br /><br />Have you noticed, Father the upsurge in bile and hysteria from characters like Dawkins, Hitchens and Fry since the Holy Father made his dramatic offer.<br /><br />'Dawkins, Hitchens and Fry...'<br /><br />Sound like characters out of a Roald Dahl novel.johnfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233791349837340770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-60596242518036710012009-10-28T14:58:31.773+00:002009-10-28T14:58:31.773+00:00Surely it's not the training that determines t...Surely it's not the <i>training</i> that determines the validity of a priestly ordination? A lay MDiv graduate is still a laic, and a locally called priest without a theological degree is still a priest.Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00324636915206892169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-14762438789680254692009-10-28T12:44:15.173+00:002009-10-28T12:44:15.173+00:00I have had positive conversations with RCs on the ...I have had positive conversations with RCs on the topic of "loaning." I believe it to be a very real possibility. At the parish level, many a haggard RC priest would love to have a clerical helping hand if only for hospital and house calls (and wouldn't it feel good to show up with one's English Ritual...).<br /><br />There are a lot of nice old fellows who became priests as aAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-13021209256635804892009-10-28T11:55:51.338+00:002009-10-28T11:55:51.338+00:00A very balanced observation, father, and a breath ...A very balanced observation, father, and a breath of fresh air amongst some of the wilder speculations of the blogosphere.<br />Regards,<br />John U.K.John F H Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032884551581324489noreply@blogger.com