tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post593119275590047714..comments2024-03-28T14:19:53.973+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: It's A la Carte for some!Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-13141473944835019792016-03-17T17:24:11.648+00:002016-03-17T17:24:11.648+00:00JHN was *not* "practically having a stroke&qu...JHN was *not* "practically having a stroke" at Vatican I "the other way". He fervently believed it to be true and had done for many years by then. It wasn't the doctrine but the prudence of the declaration that he doubted. The one thing it wasn't was a "Theological disagreement".Trisagionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689037119871067090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-52060254505505459602016-03-16T22:23:35.994+00:002016-03-16T22:23:35.994+00:00I agree that cradle Catholics may be a bit more us...I agree that cradle Catholics may be a bit more used to ignoring or putting up with the stupid stuff, and paying attention to real Church teaching. But the flipside is <br />that "cradle liberals" take advantage of that sort of freedom, and ignore actual <br />Church teaching in the same way. (And I suppose that the mechanism is similar for traditionalists who go so far into an imaginedBansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-9632309451671326522016-03-16T22:13:31.430+00:002016-03-16T22:13:31.430+00:00First off, the lay preaching thing is full of inge...First off, the lay preaching thing is full of ingenuous lies. Medieval lay preachers (sometimes men, rarely women) were preaching on the platform in the marketplace on market days, in lieu of the usual edutainment by friars or monks or priests. They were never preaching in church!! It also wasn't usually preaching, per se, but just general Catholic edification (or urging people to go to Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-75434007800601237582016-03-16T21:16:27.032+00:002016-03-16T21:16:27.032+00:00Much of my generation, the naive trusting pre-Conc...Much of my generation, the naive trusting pre-Conciliar lot, never noticed the degree of alteration of the post-Conciliar “Magisterium” What you say is sobering and explains the gravity of the problem to this day, the a la Carte approach of the mainly Germanic heterodox. <br /><br />Leo 1 was a good Pope, the first to emphasise the concept of the Keeper of the Keys.<br />He dealt well with the Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-29224467231583984102016-03-16T14:14:41.617+00:002016-03-16T14:14:41.617+00:00KaeseEs wrote: "The new theology asserts that...KaeseEs wrote: "The new theology asserts that nothing the laity do at Mass as laity is actually worth anything"<br /><br />I fear that there is a deeper problem, that too many priests, bishops, liturgists, theologians and other influential Catholics have lost the belief in the practical efficacy of prayer.<br /><br />How many of them would institute a Novena for a particular purpose, RichardThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16761130714944237699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-43181276762098416182016-03-16T12:22:00.937+00:002016-03-16T12:22:00.937+00:00Haven't the Orthodox been asking the same ques...Haven't the Orthodox been asking the same question all these centuries?Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12833345391579579562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-34050897235430956572016-03-16T11:08:37.759+00:002016-03-16T11:08:37.759+00:00Was Benedict XVI thinking of founding an ordinaria...Was Benedict XVI thinking of founding an ordinariate for Lutherans?Little Black Sambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699227938165106710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-64950696946077198592016-03-16T11:07:18.117+00:002016-03-16T11:07:18.117+00:00Was Benedict XVI thinking about founding an ordina...Was Benedict XVI thinking about founding an ordinariate for Lutherans?Little Black Sambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699227938165106710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-41596238662284458372016-03-15T23:50:17.177+00:002016-03-15T23:50:17.177+00:00Are bloggers the 21st century version of Catherine...Are bloggers the 21st century version of Catherine of Siena?mark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12847411975641738898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-43234083192660443132016-03-15T21:57:55.327+00:002016-03-15T21:57:55.327+00:00I think the buffet may officially open on Saturday...I think the buffet may officially open on Saturday.Lepantohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487748842744745860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-48127039603946648932016-03-15T20:59:24.602+00:002016-03-15T20:59:24.602+00:00Very well said Father. Very well said Father. Seaneinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01506043518713550239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-51918018756052863712016-03-15T18:11:58.142+00:002016-03-15T18:11:58.142+00:00I'm beginning to wonder at those who say '...I'm beginning to wonder at those who say 'Don't fear!' with regards our current magister. Why? I spend my life attempting (badly) to walk the line. But now there may not even be a line. If anything it makes me feel like a perfect fool. What a waste of a life, when I could've been out there getting all lovely filthy concupiscent up to my eyeballs! Gillineauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17789163020221679786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-33855531765409119352016-03-15T16:34:14.219+00:002016-03-15T16:34:14.219+00:00Phil Lawler wrote a nice terse half-page back in 2...Phil Lawler wrote a nice terse half-page back in 2010 which relates to your question Padre – can be read by clicking <a href="http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otn.cfm?id=616" rel="nofollow"> HERE</a>.<br /><br />When we speak of the “post-Conciliar Magisterium” in a more isolated sense, it tends to imply/magnify an element of discontinuity between the “pre-Conciliar Magisterium” and the Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08474622031247588124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-42386283900930934802016-03-15T16:29:15.829+00:002016-03-15T16:29:15.829+00:00There are actually two questions in the present no...There are actually two questions in the present note, (and, Mark Wauck, Rev. Mr. Augustine, et.c., No, this problem is much older than the intraregnum), the question of how and when to reintegrate Christians who have not been visibly Catholic, and what to do about Christians who appear to start out Catholic but go heretical or revolutionary.<br /><br />And on the second point, His Emminence Belfry Bathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514867101036143597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-12162112301814263972016-03-15T15:43:47.928+00:002016-03-15T15:43:47.928+00:00Cradle Catholics are more equal than converts beca...Cradle Catholics are more equal than converts because we have the privilege of ignoring the current day Magisterium, especially if we were not raised in it. Catholic inculcation is basically one to five, when we have no say about anything. It is over by fourteen. All that I completed before Vatican Council 2, that is, before I was confirmed. I saw no need to revisit what I had learned, if it is Paul-A. Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11625698481730141561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-23089021154282799902016-03-15T15:42:42.162+00:002016-03-15T15:42:42.162+00:00But, Fr., that was then and this is now. The new ...But, Fr., that was then and this is now. The new springtime arrived in 2013, along with the new CEO, so everything is to be "interpreted" anew in order to take account of the changed world in which we live. If you had studied harder you would also have learned about the 8th sacrament - the Crossed Fingers. This renders every promise and statement of belief possible, while at the same Deacon Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549825303646357455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-25331726470664172712016-03-15T15:19:08.560+00:002016-03-15T15:19:08.560+00:00Perhaps I am the only one who sees things this way...Perhaps I am the only one who sees things this way, but I think the nonsense L'Osservatore Romano is peddling wrt. laymen and laywomen preaching the homily is the nastiest form of clericalism out there. This goes way beyond the practical question of "why have an ordained ministry (and why did our Lord institute such) if we're going to dole out their roles one-by-one over time to KaeseEshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07163030641791132729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-27318453266776087452016-03-15T13:21:40.709+00:002016-03-15T13:21:40.709+00:00"Why are the Catholic Faith and the post-Conc..."Why are the Catholic Faith and the post-Conciliar Magisterium Table d'hote for Bishop Fellay and me, but a la Carte for other more Eminent people?"<br /><br />Orwell answered that: "But some are more equal than others." It's all in supporting the ever more flexible doctrines of our sub rosa Neo Modernist masters and the Gospel of Progress! Forward!Tamquamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17362772766116096557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-59536036879508656382016-03-15T12:37:54.347+00:002016-03-15T12:37:54.347+00:00Short answer: because Francis. Easy.
I'd be ...Short answer: because Francis. Easy.<br /><br />I'd be interested in Newman's views of the current situation. One could hardly blame him if were inclined to say, I told you so. He knew that, however meritorious on its face, "infallibility" was bound to be misunderstood by most people--as it is. And Francis is flogging that nag for all it's worth, with men who should knowmark wauckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12847411975641738898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-43946651351899401762016-03-15T11:54:43.809+00:002016-03-15T11:54:43.809+00:00And yet, when the baptized person is received into...And yet, when the baptized person is received into full communion he professes to "believe everything which the Holy Catholic Church believes, teaches and proclaims to be revealed by God" and not whatever is contained in the post-conciliar magisterium at no matter what level.Fr PJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597780307057121375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-74526751800906929332016-03-15T11:49:34.007+00:002016-03-15T11:49:34.007+00:00Dear and Venerable Father, (the second adjective e...Dear and Venerable Father, (the second adjective earned not honorific),<br /><br />I should far gladly sit with you, be we just two souls, eating fried eggs and beans and a cup of tea from the Table-d'Hote, that with the crowd of Beautiful People in the next room feasting on lobsters and Meursault from the Carte!<br /><br />To paraphrase Our Lord's words, by their Food ye shall know them.Josephus Muris Saliensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10888638147153175697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-39499439089648344262016-03-15T11:39:36.966+00:002016-03-15T11:39:36.966+00:00Fr.Dont despair!The dreaded 2nd vatican council,or...Fr.Dont despair!The dreaded 2nd vatican council,or its spirit ,so to speak is still influential with the modernists.However it has run out of steam and the ageing hippies are pushing zimmer frames and dreading the march of Tradition and the truth of The Mystical Body of Christ.God Bless.philipjohnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128964006463059159noreply@blogger.com