tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post5639775664574181065..comments2024-03-28T20:30:48.788+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Conditional Ordination for Ordinariate Anglicans?Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-92221028973394558272010-12-07T15:04:57.980+00:002010-12-07T15:04:57.980+00:00A conditional formula in the Orthodox Church for &...A conditional formula in the Orthodox Church for 'questionable baptisms' may offer a relevant perspective on the matter of 'questionable ordinations'. By the late Bishop Basil (Rodzianko)of San Francisco in <i>Light of Life</i> (Diocese of the West, Orthodox Church in America, February 1983):<br /><br />"The Orthodox Church has a special rule, which concerns all cases in 123https://www.blogger.com/profile/14514075641944568806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-49312607331329918122010-12-07T11:10:58.906+00:002010-12-07T11:10:58.906+00:00Thank you, Fr Hunwicke. That was helpful.Thank you, Fr Hunwicke. That was helpful.Father Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14093619148896080890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-70416294578125214502010-12-06T20:16:53.519+00:002010-12-06T20:16:53.519+00:00Is not a general confession of all of one's pa...Is not a general confession of all of one's past a most excellent practice?<br /><br />Prior to being received, one makes such a confession.<br /><br />I expect all incoming Anglicans will be zealous practitioners of auricular confession in any case.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-43241009236639782022010-12-06T19:42:40.017+00:002010-12-06T19:42:40.017+00:00Here's a question which lay Anglo-catholics mi...Here's a question which lay Anglo-catholics might be interested in. Supposing Anglican priest must be re-ordained when they join the ordinariate because their ordination is in doubt, then it also follows that every absolution for sin which they have given is also doubtful, therefore, is every lay Anglo-Catholic who joins the ordinariate obliged to confess every sin which they have committed The Talking Donkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14890750936428247322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-7948787886804406252010-12-06T19:00:52.081+00:002010-12-06T19:00:52.081+00:00I concur. I'll be in Oxford next year, Fr. Joh...I concur. I'll be in Oxford next year, Fr. John, and I hope to receive Our Lord from your hands as well. And may you keep St. Thomas the Martyr in some way, please God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-88602125691979654802010-12-06T11:19:13.633+00:002010-12-06T11:19:13.633+00:00I'm still a little puzzled at some of the atti...I'm still a little puzzled at some of the attitudes and by the certainty that so many seem to have that they will be priested in the Ordinariate. Why so sure?<br /><br />More worrying for the future of ecumenism are the sneers which keep appearing in regard to those who remain behind in the Church of England.<br /><br />Maybe a footnote in a text book dear to ancient warroris such as myself Fr Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04783526602064844509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-50435286870190645202010-12-05T23:47:05.353+00:002010-12-05T23:47:05.353+00:00". . . the careful statement of Fr Aidan Nich...". . . the careful statement of Fr Aidan Nichols that the invalidity of Anglican Orders is not now unconditionally proposed by the Roman Magisterium . . ."<br /><br />I don't quite follow. Father H, could you elaborate or provide the quote?Fr Timothy Matkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10794558184459092532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-17055092272936569772010-12-05T14:39:12.176+00:002010-12-05T14:39:12.176+00:00It has been stated by some and much mooted in Cana...It has been stated by some and much mooted in Canada that those Anglicans who are ordained absolutely, conditionally or absolutely with conditionality assumed (as per Newman) will be given the dignity of celebrating their priestly jubilees on the date of their Anglican ordination. <br />I have not been able to verify this, but it does seem to be more than a nod in the direction of "the peregrinustohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15669515867797692879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-57601084171699499062010-12-05T12:47:50.271+00:002010-12-05T12:47:50.271+00:00"If I may repeat, Fr H., what I have written ..."If I may repeat, Fr H., what I have written several times before: when next I visit Oxford, I trust matters may be so composed that I may receive the Eucharist at your hands, we being all in Holy Church united."<br /><br />I make Joshua's petition my own, with the addition of a little clausula "or in Texas or elsewhere" after "Oxford."William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634494183165592707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-25636292261279356702010-12-05T10:44:11.705+00:002010-12-05T10:44:11.705+00:00I wish all Anglicans at Tiber's bank, hearing ...I wish all Anglicans at Tiber's bank, hearing the Bridge-Builder's call, the very best for the future, assuring them of prayers and good will; one trusts the Ponte Benedetto will prove a comfortable crossing point.<br /><br />If I may repeat, Fr H., what I have written several times before: when next I visit Oxford, I trust matters may be so composed that I may receive the Eucharist at Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-57302341724499114672009-12-17T13:20:26.307+00:002009-12-17T13:20:26.307+00:00"the faithful ministry of your servant N in t..."the faithful ministry of your servant N in the Anglican Church" <br /><br />Father where and when did all this twaddle about the Anglican 'Church' arise?<br /><br />It is a Tradition and was a Communion but how, when, and in what manner it became A CHURCH I know not.Nebulyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11251303196283705580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-66293759364980723982009-12-17T12:15:40.471+00:002009-12-17T12:15:40.471+00:00My own suggestion is this. If Anglican priests wer...<i>My own suggestion is this. If Anglican priests were 'reordained' at a grand, public, triumphalist ceremony, this would have the body-language of "These men were not really priests before".</i><br /><br />Surely that is the point of conditional ordination?: to ordain someone for sure, because their previous ordination was doubtful?<br /><br />You are certainly asking Rome for Aduliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00534730218402742905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-77217708506212915942009-12-17T02:23:24.353+00:002009-12-17T02:23:24.353+00:00This old Catholic prays he will, before this old C...This old Catholic prays he will, before this old Catholic pops his clogs!<br /><br />God bless you, Fr John.CPKShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14450108415656796528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-13549224693030604422009-12-17T00:34:21.721+00:002009-12-17T00:34:21.721+00:00Well, this young Catholic certainly hopes he will....Well, this young Catholic certainly hopes he will._https://www.blogger.com/profile/10739893229122217454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-71639210719221104332009-12-16T21:38:57.465+00:002009-12-16T21:38:57.465+00:00I think you'll find the question is
"Fr J...I think you'll find the question is<br />"Fr John, are you going to offer yourself for consideration for ordination as a priest in communion with the Holy See in one of the Ordinariates?"motupropriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261356560114077508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-23853577077304532942009-12-16T15:47:32.577+00:002009-12-16T15:47:32.577+00:00We hope so. Please God. ... But, surely, the ques...We hope so. Please God. ... But, surely, the question must be: "Fr John, are you going to offer yourself for consideration for ordination as a priest in the Ordinariate?"Mauricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02262499349555966043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-51834229290529352062009-12-16T13:55:30.314+00:002009-12-16T13:55:30.314+00:00Fr John are you going to be a Priest in the Ordina...Fr John are you going to be a Priest in the Ordinate?.beckethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00313592795305384910noreply@blogger.com