tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post5489610575340494177..comments2024-03-29T01:24:45.251+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Nostra aetate (6) ... two recent popesFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-21831136138393769332019-12-16T14:02:53.973+00:002019-12-16T14:02:53.973+00:00Your distinction between "election" and ...Your distinction between "election" and "covenant" is also one made by Fr. Elias Friedman. Also the distinction between salvific and the eschatological dimension. He was the founder of the Association of Hebrew Catholics. I believe you would be greatly interested in his book "Jewish Identity". It is available at their website which can be found by a simple search.Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00202156079831053710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-66831734639955430402019-12-16T13:10:13.238+00:002019-12-16T13:10:13.238+00:00Chapter 2.
On the permanence of the primacy of b...<i>Chapter 2. <br /><br />On the permanence of the primacy of blessed Peter in the Roman pontiffs<br /><br />1. That which our lord Jesus Christ, the prince of shepherds and great shepherd of the sheep, established in the blessed apostle Peter, for the continual salvation and permanent benefit of the Church, must of necessity remain for ever, by Christ's authority, in the Church which, Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-36470346886274527902015-12-15T16:57:02.312+00:002015-12-15T16:57:02.312+00:00It is said that the Congregation for the Doctrine ...It is said that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith approved this document. I wonder whether their contribution was just the bit about it not forming part of the Magisterium which is their way of politely saying this is rubbish.Nicolas Bellordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08063019108964247676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-79735826716880651302015-12-14T22:00:55.485+00:002015-12-14T22:00:55.485+00:00I remember we were taught “Completes” rather as Fr...I remember we were taught “Completes” rather as Fr Blake uses “Fulfils” . But I think it is the same the same thing and may be more theologically correct . <br /><br />The Old Testament contains and is to be interpreted as within the New Testament to which all, including Jews, are required to agree!Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-31403883062253592192014-01-18T23:03:37.043+00:002014-01-18T23:03:37.043+00:00I often wonder if the Judaizing question was one o...I often wonder if the Judaizing question was one of liturgics, and not so much of a negation of Christ's salvific work. Imagine that - judaizers, the rad trads of the early Church :-D<br /><br /><br />While we're on the subject of altering liturgical texts because of Jews, it seems that a verse of Victimae Paschali was was altered in the 1570 missal because it was perjorative.Marco da Vinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06092410765851812842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-12537762226620592742014-01-18T06:13:15.203+00:002014-01-18T06:13:15.203+00:00Dear Father, thank you so much for your extremely ...Dear Father, thank you so much for your extremely helpful treatment of this issue.<br /><br />By way of a footnote, I've posted some speculations on St Benedict's ordering of his psalter that may reflect his understanding of this issue, which I think provide another example from tradition of views that are entirely consistent with your exposition:<br /><br />http://Kate Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01000040465724868745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-11145940341845085572014-01-16T01:22:13.523+00:002014-01-16T01:22:13.523+00:00Fr. Hunwicke, thank you for dwelling at some lengt...Fr. Hunwicke, thank you for dwelling at some length on this issue.<br /><br />The original heresy of the Judaisers has resurfaced every few centuries over the last 2,000 years, and I believe this dual covenant theory is simply the latest manifestation of it.<br /><br />Along with the ubiquitous Origenism to be found at all levels of the Church in our day, it amounts to a Satanic attack on the Deacon Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549825303646357455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-58313947831622466392014-01-15T14:46:56.414+00:002014-01-15T14:46:56.414+00:00I don't know if you are willing for a Broad Ch...<i>I don't know if you are willing for a Broad Churchman like F. D. Maurice to be grafted into the "Patrimony", Father. But in his sermon on the Decalogue in the Communion Office, he had something to say that seems relevant to your series. He transmits the same teaching you have been expounding within the framework of a very positive assessment of the Old Covenant.</i><br /><br />Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17809446580681184264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-6234443737625358222014-01-14T20:02:27.653+00:002014-01-14T20:02:27.653+00:00Father Paul, such an action done by a Jew seems in...Father Paul, such an action done by a Jew seems indistinguishable from anyone else who obeys his conscience and reverences God in his heart. There seems nothing particularly significant (as far as his salvation is concerned) about his Jewishness. Those rites which might once have been of some use have long been abolished and superseded in Christian rites. He might pray and is likely to use theOld Catholic Church UKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07369993760223244113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-56772585371617228742014-01-14T19:26:16.532+00:002014-01-14T19:26:16.532+00:00When a Jew observes the requirements of Torah from...When a Jew observes the requirements of Torah from a motive of obedience to the God of Israel, and trusting in God's faithfulness, then any "effectiveness" of this action, in the sense of meriting grace, can only come in virtue of the salvific work of Christ. Torah is, objectively, fulfilled in Christ, whether or not the devout Jew realises this. Is there any flaw in this argument?Don Camillo SSChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15181985690276317480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-19581968648355675532014-01-14T18:56:29.990+00:002014-01-14T18:56:29.990+00:00Culture Wars magazine,2008
The simple fact is, ...<i>Culture Wars</i> magazine,2008<br /><br /><i> The simple fact is, John Paul II has never said that his statement, “the Old Covenant, never revoked by God” referred to the Mosaic covenant, and neither did any of his post-Vatican II predecessors. He has clearly stated that his use of the phrase “Old Covenant” was in reference to the Abrahamic covenant and no other. This fact was made clear in Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-19041462187079994262014-01-14T16:36:51.839+00:002014-01-14T16:36:51.839+00:00If I understand it correctly, being a member of th...If I understand it correctly, being a member of the Old Covenant is like being a sign post for Rome: you indicate the right direction to others, but you personally never get there.bedwerehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339741971886945010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-51085183915951052122014-01-14T12:40:30.692+00:002014-01-14T12:40:30.692+00:00'lack any binding quality upon the Catholic co...'lack any binding quality upon the Catholic conscience'; I'd just like to say thank you, and God Bless, for saying 'Catholic conscience.'<br /><br />while I'm a bit releaved not to have encountered the traditionalism of Elizabeth Tudor, I still pray to encounter a little more of the pre-priest-hole tradition at Mass. <br /><br />and while many of us may never have an 'Our Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-55707365405996465922014-01-14T12:06:22.397+00:002014-01-14T12:06:22.397+00:00The Old Covenant being 'unrevoked' does no...The Old Covenant being 'unrevoked' does not seem to be problem, if we understand it as, being about 'election', 'I will be your God and you will be my people, if you keep my commandments', it is not salvific, it is about 'choseness'. In Christian terms, 'chosen' to point to Jesus.<br />The New & Eternal Covenant surpasses and fulfils the Old, the 'Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.com