tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post5411719156971344277..comments2024-03-18T20:38:40.751+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: The Ordinariates and the Knockwurst theologiansFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-38492229221981572682015-11-01T05:04:37.356+00:002015-11-01T05:04:37.356+00:00Dear Father
I think my earlier response has got l...Dear Father<br /><br />I think my earlier response has got lost. The catechism of the catholic Church was recommended by the the bishops of the Traditional Anglican communion in their Portsmouth Declaration. All the bishops who attended signed a copy of the CCC which was taken, together with the Declaration and hand delivered to Archbishop di Noia in Rome. The reason why the TAC did this was Cherubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10998294374027724557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-5885425879401729792015-10-31T01:48:30.846+00:002015-10-31T01:48:30.846+00:00Dear KaesaEs,
Except, if the subjective judgement...Dear KaesaEs,<br /><br />Except, if the subjective judgement be discerned to be true, which is what the pastor, "in truth", is being invited to determine one way or the other, then there is no conflict with objective fact: for it would follow that objectively there was no marriage in the first place, hence there could not have been a divorce. <br /><br />The text you quote from deBophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14259091692272412217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-52618216198135382372015-10-31T00:46:56.115+00:002015-10-31T00:46:56.115+00:00Father, if I ever again visit the UK, I must visit...Father, if I ever again visit the UK, I must visit your parish...and hopefully bring my Episcopalian Priest brother with me. I chuckle at the poster who intimated that "they" would just issue new catechisms and Bibles. Well, on this side of the pond "they" already did as per the latter...in the form of a translation that replaces "virgin" with "young woman&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-84909086418208509092015-10-30T22:55:02.509+00:002015-10-30T22:55:02.509+00:00To Chappy B+: Unfortunately, the Holy Father could...To Chappy B+: Unfortunately, the Holy Father could dissolve the CDF.The following question was asked in the comments section of Robert Royal's essay entitled " The Text and the Context" of the The Catholic Thing: "I have read somewhere, that the Pope might just do away with the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith. ... is that possible?"<br /><br />Father Peter Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-70316512877943684752015-10-30T21:46:20.870+00:002015-10-30T21:46:20.870+00:00Chappy B+,
That is excellent, heartening news. Bu...Chappy B+,<br /><br />That is excellent, heartening news. But I wonder what would happen if our <i>hypothetical</i> Clement XXV were to abolish the CDF in a misguided effort to devolve doctrinal authority to regional entities like bishops' conferences?Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747213382322731103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-71085286442139549192015-10-30T21:01:57.776+00:002015-10-30T21:01:57.776+00:00deBop,
They would be contradicting the part, ...deBop,<br /><br /> They would be contradicting the part, just a few scant sentences after the section of Paragraph 84 which you quoted, which reads in English:<br /><br />"However, the Church reaffirms her practice, which is based upon Sacred Scripture, of not admitting to Eucharistic Communion divorced persons who have remarried. They are unable to be admitted thereto from the fact that KaeseEshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07163030641791132729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-85522746330848455672015-10-30T21:01:25.630+00:002015-10-30T21:01:25.630+00:00Fr Hunwicke, I made a comment to our leadership in...Fr Hunwicke, I made a comment to our leadership in the American Ordinariate last week that, if even the Church "decentralized" and became something like the Anglican Communion, the Ordinariates are all directly under the purview of the CDF. Thus, even if diocese, or even entire episcopal conferences, were to drift in a heterodox direction, we would still have a close tie to Rome, to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-24114511590888453652015-10-30T19:39:55.842+00:002015-10-30T19:39:55.842+00:00Well it depends on what specific means.From Famili...Well it depends on what specific means.From Familiaris Consortio, Paragraph 84:<br /><br />"Pastors must know that, for the sake of truth, they are obliged to exercise careful discernment of situations. There is in fact a difference between those who have sincerely tried to save their first marriage and have been unjustly abandoned, and those who through their own grave fault have destroyed deBophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14259091692272412217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-77849425909020969712015-10-30T14:15:28.534+00:002015-10-30T14:15:28.534+00:00Dear Father. There are such things as sly and wry ...Dear Father. There are such things as sly and wry speculations and thanks be to God they exist.<br /><br />You are the best....Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-86990413575251651792015-10-30T14:03:42.438+00:002015-10-30T14:03:42.438+00:00What a coincidence! I had been idly speculating ab...What a coincidence! I had been idly speculating about the very same (highly improbable) thought experiment, Father. We are fortunate enough to have a little Ordinariate enclave in our Western Canadian diocese, and should a <i>future</i> diocesan bishop decide to go along with a <i>future</i> directive from the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops to subvert the Magisterium (and the CCCB is, ofMurrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747213382322731103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-66507755868020630612015-10-30T13:07:29.440+00:002015-10-30T13:07:29.440+00:00That's a very easy square to circle, Father - ...That's a very easy square to circle, Father - they'll just issue revised catechisms.<br /><br />Then revised editions of the Rite excised of pesky things our Lord said about the matter, as well as removing some medieval rubbish that somehow survived in the previous versions due to an oversight.<br /><br />Then revised Bibles, because some Troublemakers will keep muckraking otherwise, and KaeseEshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07163030641791132729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-46555828044148896712015-10-30T11:20:34.278+00:002015-10-30T11:20:34.278+00:00
Wonderful. Absolutely brilliant!!
<br />Wonderful. Absolutely brilliant!! <br /><br /> Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08512517651788519121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-21931495895126242702015-10-30T10:50:45.309+00:002015-10-30T10:50:45.309+00:00Your mistake, Fr H, is thinking you signed on to t...Your mistake, Fr H, is thinking you signed on to the <i>letter</i> of the CCC. Actually, you signed on to its <i>spirit</i>.Tony Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10862727279147129707noreply@blogger.com