tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post5305012164390544827..comments2024-03-28T14:19:53.973+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: There must be a story here ...Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-76933924429128129162021-05-17T06:19:15.604+01:002021-05-17T06:19:15.604+01:00Yes, this piece of Episcopal eco waffle is still o...Yes, this piece of Episcopal eco waffle is still on the Bishops' website as of 17th May. Along with the latest COVID advice, of course.<br /><br />https://www.cbcew.org.uk/pastoral-letter-environment-pentecost/<br /><br />Does not the COVID advice to well ventilate churches (so they are cold) conflict with eco advice on energy insulation?<br /><br />Bill Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06490443795561210965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-5151660586351871272021-05-16T21:44:49.332+01:002021-05-16T21:44:49.332+01:00The President of the Conference has ordered it to ...The President of the Conference has ordered it to be read in his diocese and doubtless many others have or will too. The interesting thing will be whether there are any recusants.motupropriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261356560114077508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-3697611625352795602021-05-15T23:45:52.851+01:002021-05-15T23:45:52.851+01:00Dear F. Marsden!
It doesn't appear that the C...Dear F. Marsden!<br /><br />It doesn't appear that the CBCEW has stipulated that the letter shall be read in all churches. The introductionon its website says "A Pastoral Letter on the environment, prepared by the Bishops of England and Wales, for use in churches on 23 May 2021, Pentecost Sunday.<br /><br />https://www.cbcew.org.uk/pastoral-letter-environment-pentecost/<br /><br />That Jhayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064136312272621107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-7098246307866139052021-05-15T18:30:56.514+01:002021-05-15T18:30:56.514+01:00Each individual bishop is supreme in his diocese u...Each individual bishop is supreme in his diocese under the Pope. However an Episcopal Conference does not have this sort of authority throughout its area. Its authority is limited to about 27 specific issues - Holydays of Obligation, how much of the Divine Office deacons have to say etc. <br /><br />I doubt that the Episcopal Conference has the authority to stipulate that a "pastoral Letter&F Marsdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04348628602646025343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-35730767424270275342021-05-15T13:55:38.370+01:002021-05-15T13:55:38.370+01:00Appears to be a joint statement of the two bishops...Appears to be a joint statement of the two bishops conferences:<br /><br />This article from April mentions that the CBCEW "are preparing a joint statement with the Scottish bishops on the plight of the planet to be published on Pentecost Sunday"<br /><br />Also, that <br /><br />"Catholic bishops have found the ultimate environmental tonic – a gin distillery – to fuel their green Jhayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064136312272621107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-67200708848514694412021-05-15T11:25:22.856+01:002021-05-15T11:25:22.856+01:00Having read this, I find it very bland. I can'...Having read this, I find it very bland. I can't see anything as clear as your summary Father "we should not divide the Pentecostal gift of the Spirit from the involvement of the same Spirit in currently fashionable "Environmental" concerns" but what would be <b>wrong</b> with that? It is clearly dangerous if we do not involve the Holy Spirit, that leads to to fanatacism ofE sapelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09886268559214926797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-28030359515999189732021-05-15T08:13:25.284+01:002021-05-15T08:13:25.284+01:00The trace of said document on the cbcew website is...The trace of said document on the cbcew website is https://www.cbcew.org.uk/pastoral-letter-environment-pentecost/<br />and it contains the words quoted by Father.Friedlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08510300279004243856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-6377223362190862852021-05-15T04:36:11.885+01:002021-05-15T04:36:11.885+01:00"I live the life of an irrelevant and rightly..."I live the life of an irrelevant and rightly despised recluse"<br /><br />Stop making fun of me!Patrick https://www.blogger.com/profile/05255276399870325008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-42247168466088752992021-05-15T02:43:22.015+01:002021-05-15T02:43:22.015+01:00https://www.stlsidcup.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/...https://www.stlsidcup.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Pastoral-Letter-for-Pentecost-2021.pdf<br /><br />https://www.cbcew.org.uk/pastoral-letter-environment-pentecost/<br /><br />4th paragraph <br />"as bishops of England, Wales and Scotland"<br /><br />Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07358666316547259383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-87876434715448840912021-05-15T02:42:32.421+01:002021-05-15T02:42:32.421+01:00https://www.stlsidcup.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/...https://www.stlsidcup.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Pastoral-Letter-for-Pentecost-2021.pdf<br /><br />https://www.cbcew.org.uk/pastoral-letter-environment-pentecost/<br /><br />4th paragraph <br />"as bishops of England, Wales and Scotland"<br /><br />Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07358666316547259383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-40814715625871019052021-05-14T21:23:35.608+01:002021-05-14T21:23:35.608+01:00The letter is on the CBCEW site now.
https://www.c...The letter is on the CBCEW site <b>now</b>.<br />https://www.cbcew.org.uk/pastoral-letter-environment-pentecost/<br />and it can now be found under NEWS. <br />Yes Father, it does include the words you quoted, about half way through.<br />There is also a film, but :- <br />Secure Connection Failed An error occurred ... experienced an internal error.<br />Error code: E sapelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09886268559214926797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-63714594268318190682021-05-14T20:58:32.254+01:002021-05-14T20:58:32.254+01:00A facsimile of the CBEW Pastoral Letter can be fou...A facsimile of the CBEW Pastoral Letter can be found on Mark Lambert's 'De Omnibus Dubitandum Est' blog (https://marklambert.blogspot.com/2021/05/establishing-new-object-of-worship.html.)<br />The offending inclusion of Scotland's bishops with CBEW is in the penultimate line of the third paragraph.<br />Before reading the aforementioned post, I suggest readers of a nervous Chrysologoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00624964206160523196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-57414300348599620492021-05-14T19:27:35.869+01:002021-05-14T19:27:35.869+01:00Indeed, it did not. It was a PDF document headed &...Indeed, it did not. It was a PDF document headed "Bishops Conference of England and Wales".<br />https://www.stlsidcup.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Pastoral-Letter-for-Pentecost-2021.pdf<br /><br />It is not signed by anyone, either, which is odd for a letter. Éamonnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11560394580179348894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-46582899322404268292021-05-14T19:15:58.541+01:002021-05-14T19:15:58.541+01:00Eamonn: so the copy you saw did not include the wo...Eamonn: so the copy you saw did not include the words I quoted, "speak out together ... as bishops of England Wales and Scotland"?Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-46126412521499745632021-05-14T14:04:45.002+01:002021-05-14T14:04:45.002+01:00"...a 'Pastoral Letter' for Pentecost..."...a 'Pastoral Letter' for Pentecost." So do you think they are going to "come out" for it or against it?John F. Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04037968518030663780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-49427478634527402792021-05-14T13:13:53.049+01:002021-05-14T13:13:53.049+01:00Dear Father. ABS expects that John 3:8 will be cit...Dear Father. ABS expects that John 3:8 will be cited by Chelsea Clinton or Joe Perry or somebody else at some Vatican Conference on Anthropogenic Global Warming and Harricains.<br /><br />Harricians is how Crackers in So. Flo. pronounce hurricanes.Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-70270255191846154192021-05-14T12:19:38.485+01:002021-05-14T12:19:38.485+01:00Never mind the bishops'/dioceses' websites...Never mind the bishops'/dioceses' websites, I could find no trace of the letter on the https://www.cbcew.org.uk/ site. I found a PDF copy on a parish website but there was no mention of Scotland anywhere. I am inclined to ascribe its absence to technological ineptitude rather than unwillingness to support the letter's eco-guff.Éamonnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11560394580179348894noreply@blogger.com