tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post495022341424564936..comments2024-03-29T14:32:13.886+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: The dangers of schism and of ultratraditionalismFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-80048633670398625542010-09-28T17:51:15.151+01:002010-09-28T17:51:15.151+01:00An excellent and indeed fundamental question, Flam...An excellent and indeed fundamental question, Flambeaux.<br />And given that its premise is true - that Tradition is, let's say (putting it neutrally) anthropologically required - many of us will need to take individual decisions about how much of a defective tradition we will de facto accept (see Thomas Hobbes on the philosophical point) in order not to be forced into a hermit's cave? IHelihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12469720866550827165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-4810109593937335522010-09-26T19:14:08.305+01:002010-09-26T19:14:08.305+01:00I'm not disputing the chronology, or oddity, o...I'm not disputing the chronology, or oddity, of the fixation upon the Missal of 1962.<br /><br />My question is, as it were, more fundamental. If we're supposed to receive Tradition with our mother's milk, as it were, but we did not then how do we go about recovering it so it can be passed along to our children with theirs?<br /><br />For context, I was born in the twilight of Paul VIFlambeauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133131881423202010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-91540224241690347012010-09-26T18:45:08.564+01:002010-09-26T18:45:08.564+01:00JohnF and Flambeaux,
I think there are two issues...JohnF and Flambeaux,<br /><br />I think there are two issues:<br />a) the 1962 rite didn't remain in aspic but developed into the 1965 rite and the 1967 rite before the imposition of the Pauline Missal in 1970;<br /><br />b) the SSPX originally didn't use the 1962 books in all its missions. In the UK for example the vigorous growth of the proto-Traditionalist movement under Fr. Peter Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-73778029229580282012010-09-25T13:37:59.976+01:002010-09-25T13:37:59.976+01:00Like Flambeaux I am somewhat confused. The 1962 Mi...Like Flambeaux I am somewhat confused. The 1962 Missal represents the Mass in its latest form before the radical changes post V2. So it remained in aspic so to speak during these 40 years in the wilderness.<br /><br />And what else would we use during these 40 years?<br /><br />But now since the Holy Father's motu proprio, the usus antiquor will no doubt resume its organic growth, with slow johnfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233791349837340770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-29340765350513945952010-09-24T16:32:06.183+01:002010-09-24T16:32:06.183+01:00Here's a link to the song I was thinking of:
...Here's a link to the song I was thinking of: <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiLGI7rIEcY&feature=youtube_gdata_playerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-17644962804474859922010-09-24T16:31:36.725+01:002010-09-24T16:31:36.725+01:00So what are those of us raised in the wilderness t...So what are those of us raised in the wilderness to do, Father?<br /><br />To where do we turn for authentic Tradition? How do we discern it who have never known other than pabulum and treacle?<br /><br />I'll concede that Trads don't always get it right. But I don't see that there is an alternative for the harried layman.Flambeauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133131881423202010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-81458988170475813762010-09-24T16:24:06.914+01:002010-09-24T16:24:06.914+01:00E. Michael Jones' recent "Culture Wars&qu...E. Michael Jones' recent "Culture Wars" mag has a pic of bishop Fellay on it's cover greeting the faithful out of doors. He is mitered, bearing his crosier and dressed in tunical, dalmatic and chasuble. Didn't the rock band "Devo" (short for devolution) have a song called "The New Traditionalists"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com