tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post4579009626119756708..comments2024-03-28T20:30:48.788+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Bishop Fellay and Mutual EnrichmentFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-45256781439689715862016-09-28T19:53:38.371+01:002016-09-28T19:53:38.371+01:00Cosmos, the infallibility statement was one he mad...Cosmos, the infallibility statement was one he made to Bishop Fellay: finally found the article with video embedded http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/2729-francis-canonizations-are-not-infallibleJMcCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17035930020098305260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-66705162328984470642016-09-25T07:23:54.262+01:002016-09-25T07:23:54.262+01:00A reconcilation would be wonderful...from your lip...A reconcilation would be wonderful...from your lips to God's ears. The "schismatic mentality" alluded to may be illustrated by the refusal of some SSPX laity, encouraged by many SSPX clergy, to attend non-SSPX Masses even if it meant missing Mass on Sunday. Even if another Extraordinary Form Mass available. Sad.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12177827661591645391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-75034186251741645512016-09-24T18:27:55.430+01:002016-09-24T18:27:55.430+01:00"there was a Catholic Bishop on the east coas..."there was a Catholic Bishop on the east coast of the US, I believe it was 15 years ago, in Philadelphia who sent his priests to an SSPX seminary for formation. No one corrected him."<br /><br />Mike Hurcum, can you provide any evidence to support this claim? Philadelphia has never, ever been a hotbed of traditionalism, and I can't think of any other bishops in the surrounding Brian Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05923575766779901002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-28176739114272532902016-09-24T14:12:43.507+01:002016-09-24T14:12:43.507+01:00It certainly would be to the benefit of the Church...It certainly would be to the benefit of the Church if the SSPX were ‘fully integrated’ into the Universal Church and could act as a leaven to the rest of us. The Pope’s granting them faculties for the Year of Mercy seemed a step in that direction. It is hard to see him withdrawing that at the end of said year.<br /><br />However, a caveat… Would their status as a Personal Prelature protect them GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-91277939663801936962016-09-24T01:02:10.668+01:002016-09-24T01:02:10.668+01:00On your side Father John, there was a Catholic Bi...On your side Father John, there was a Catholic Bishop on the east coast of the US, I believe it was 15 years ago, in Philadelphia who sent his priests to an SSPX seminary for formation. No one corrected him. I have published on my blog a long time ago the opening homily of Vat 2 and the closing homily both stated quite clearly that this council was pastoral in nature and did not change the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-69235119681153113182016-09-24T00:32:31.059+01:002016-09-24T00:32:31.059+01:00That the SSPX would bring us all a tremendous enri...That the SSPX would bring us all a tremendous enrichment of faith and liturgy is beyond doubt.<br />And I absolutely agree, Father, that the SSPX should be moved by a wish to be in complete union with the Holy Father. On the other hand, the latter's démarche is not very easy to understand. Personally, if I were a member of the SSPX, I would be concerned lest any (hypothetical) abuse of papal John Vaschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00335331585265267754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-59362043446271095852016-09-24T00:12:12.459+01:002016-09-24T00:12:12.459+01:00Indeed, Bishop Fellay has himself addressed this p...Indeed, Bishop Fellay has himself addressed this point; one of the reasons he is keen on a reconciliation is because the length of time lends itself towards a "hardening over the years". One might argue however that admitting to the potential for the problem shows a guardedness against it, and an honest appraisal of the dangers of falling off the tightrope they are walking can only Br aVincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00766459138852975580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-18080535187799541812016-09-23T23:27:29.284+01:002016-09-23T23:27:29.284+01:00Thank you Father, with all due respect to you and ...Thank you Father, with all due respect to you and your fantastic light-filled blog.<br /><br />I merely refer to the sentiment contained in this quote: "...The longer communities exist in separation ..."<br /><br />As I see it, they have not left anything or separated. SSPX does not need to return to anything. They remain in fidelity to Magisterial Truth, as they always have; in unionAquahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06691722006352014613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-61659003320786965062016-09-23T22:03:13.064+01:002016-09-23T22:03:13.064+01:00I most certainly do not think that the Society is ...I most certainly do not think that the Society is schismatic. Nor do I even hint at this in my piece.<br /><br />Indeed, I would be prepared to argue that, because of their increasing divergence from orthodoxy, some parts and personel of the German churches suffer more from a schismatic mentality than do the clergy of the Society.<br /><br />I hope that is clear!Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-42357014940754845862016-09-23T19:05:51.979+01:002016-09-23T19:05:51.979+01:00They do not seem to have a "schismatic mental...They do not seem to have a "schismatic mentality" to me. Quite the opposite. They are as purely orthodox to Catholic teaching as any living member of the Church today. <br /><br />They honor the Pope and the Seat of Peter upon which he sits with vigor and will. They exist as they have since their founding, which followed strict canonical process. Nothing has changed since then. Aquahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06691722006352014613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-29223613144597041612016-09-23T17:46:11.379+01:002016-09-23T17:46:11.379+01:00Kudos, Father. I loved your point about a certain ...Kudos, Father. I loved your point about a certain mentality hardening over the years and that annealing of attitudes could prove to be most difficult to overcome if a deal is struck - and who could be against such a deal?<br /><br />I wonder if those raised in the schism can agree to reconcile with Franciscus after more than two generations of those who succor the sspx have been schooled that Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-80802921521661533762016-09-23T16:29:18.746+01:002016-09-23T16:29:18.746+01:00Cosmos - Couldn't find an exact ref, but did s...Cosmos - Couldn't find an exact ref, but did see a quote from Pope Francis re the infallibility. This covers the exceptional nature of the recent canonisations http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1350746?eng=y&refresh_ceJMcCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17035930020098305260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-9536133393507386132016-09-23T16:15:51.283+01:002016-09-23T16:15:51.283+01:00I actually found the videos in question, thanks to...I actually found the videos in question, thanks to a friend at Angelus Press: http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/09/for-record-bishop-fellay-explains-what.htmlBrian Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05923575766779901002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-24868380220845847932016-09-23T14:24:10.478+01:002016-09-23T14:24:10.478+01:00Father,
Could you or one of your readers kindly ...Father, <br /><br />Could you or one of your readers kindly point me to a source regarding "the Pope's statement that he had not spoken infallibly when he performed certain recent canonisations." <br /><br />Thank you very much!Cosmoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199946824127025416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-87623384600548096502016-09-23T14:20:14.796+01:002016-09-23T14:20:14.796+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Brian Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05923575766779901002noreply@blogger.com