tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post4543748362366704671..comments2024-03-29T14:32:13.886+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Is there a canonist out there?Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-67016606945605135212014-08-04T01:19:24.154+01:002014-08-04T01:19:24.154+01:00The lawsuits have all been settled; the existence ...The lawsuits have all been settled; the existence of these was the original reason for withholding the votum.<br /><br />Although obtaining a votum from the local Latin Catholic ordinary is not in any sense canonically required, it appears to have become in practice a sine qua non "courtesy."William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634494183165592707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-72269495421276950662014-08-01T19:54:53.975+01:002014-08-01T19:54:53.975+01:00I am not a canonist, but it would seem to me that ...I am not a canonist, but it would seem to me that while canons 1029 and 1030 might afford a veto to the "proper bishop," provisions to which Anglicanorum coetibus art. i § 1 tips its hat, it would seem to me that the proper bishop would be (under the same section of AC) the ordinary of the particular ordinariate, not the territorial bishop. Perhaps it is more a question of deference Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065798213115341398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-81045574766465962262014-07-31T20:42:41.837+01:002014-07-31T20:42:41.837+01:00Well I am not really a canonist, but I don't s...Well I am not really a canonist, but I don't see any real canonists weighing in with comments. So...<br />1. Hasn't the approval of the territorial ordinary always been required, as well as that of the Ordinariate leadership?<br />2. Moreover, the Ordinariates in each country typically have no clerical members who are regarded as capable of performing ordinations. So some other bishop AllEarthsVanitieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12699550141602303205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-37886549862243541622014-07-31T07:06:41.666+01:002014-07-31T07:06:41.666+01:00Perhaps the Local Ordinary, like myself, thinks th...Perhaps the Local Ordinary, like myself, thinks there are already enough former Anglicans within the Barque of Peter who moved Heaven and Earth to obtain their boarding pass only to complain about the accommodations and the present Captain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-77423807178307697242014-07-31T00:19:44.640+01:002014-07-31T00:19:44.640+01:00I am a canon lawyer and can find nothing in Anglic...I am a canon lawyer and can find nothing in Anglicanorum coetibus or its complementary norms that specifically require the votum of the local bishop for admission to ordination to Catholic priesthood. It is for the Ordinary (Msgr. Steenson), with the consent of the Governing Council, to decide this. I see from what is written online that there is something of a history to this case. Bishop Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04643774963595576960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-46096009917528739312014-07-28T14:56:58.553+01:002014-07-28T14:56:58.553+01:00I'm not an expert in these matters, and no not...I'm not an expert in these matters, and no nothing about this man, but I don't see how it fits at all. See here, article 6: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20091104_norme-anglicanorum-coetibus_en.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636819224981415560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-3022812282405831902014-07-28T12:16:27.958+01:002014-07-28T12:16:27.958+01:00As far as I'm aware this boils down to the fac...As far as I'm aware this boils down to the fact that Moyer had been involved in litigation with TEC/ECUSA for several years (during which he subpoenaed the newly appointed Ordinary, Msgr. Steenson, as a witness) and had sued his own lawyer for malpractice. Even before that he had had many run-ins with the then Episcopal bishop of Pennsylvania, Charles Bennison If I recall correctly Msgr. Conchúrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06616869558976756046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-25948456380910076802014-07-28T11:39:04.168+01:002014-07-28T11:39:04.168+01:00David W. Virtue (www.virtueonline.org) on February...David W. Virtue (www.virtueonline.org) on February 21, 2012, ran a piece after the Traditional Anglican Communion (TAC) Bishop David Moyer had been denied ordination into the Roman Catholic Church by Msgr. Jeffrey Steenson, the Ordinary of the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter. Citing a number of unresolved issues, he informed Moyer of his decision when he addressed the congregation Hughiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10184567496296840443noreply@blogger.com