tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post4536208315236358747..comments2024-03-28T20:30:48.788+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: What if the Pope were to ...Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-66040774562231917872015-10-29T21:26:39.321+00:002015-10-29T21:26:39.321+00:00@ Tony V
Point taken. V1 is difficult to assess a...@ Tony V<br /><br />Point taken. V1 is difficult to assess as it was interrupted. V2 became a vehicle for American hegemony with West Germany acting as cover. A conceit which was clever enough to fool Evelyn Waugh. Councils and synods are complete nonsense. B16's resignation is the way forward: we all need to shut up and be quiet. Sadie Vacantisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04823532366874114366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-25134448950075268742015-10-29T20:28:28.235+00:002015-10-29T20:28:28.235+00:00Sadie V: I was always taught that the one instanc...Sadie V: I was always taught that the one instance of 'infallible' papal declaration after Vatican I was the Assumption of Mary in 1950. I'm perfectly capable of believing that (I can believe six impossible things before breakfast), but it's hard not to call it an oecumenical problem. And is it really a critical doctrine, in the grand scheme of things?<br /><br />To add to the Tony Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10862727279147129707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-36769328326043737732015-10-29T02:08:23.999+00:002015-10-29T02:08:23.999+00:00@ Tony V
I do believe there has only been one ex...@ Tony V <br /><br />I do believe there has only been one ex-cathedra promulgation since Vatican I. What Pius XII was stating is that Our Lady had the capability of appearing to anyone: catholic, protestant, muslim or jew if God so willed and we shouldn't be therefore surprised if she did so. No ecumenical barrier there I would suggest.Sadie Vacantisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04823532366874114366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-59900126636100440642015-10-28T20:51:04.248+00:002015-10-28T20:51:04.248+00:00Another 2/3 Popes and a another Council to sort ou...Another 2/3 Popes and a another Council to sort out the confusion.Jacobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743062941733814176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-84148599166666512532015-10-28T09:53:22.409+00:002015-10-28T09:53:22.409+00:00Thank you, Father. I shall sleep better tonight.
...Thank you, Father. I shall sleep better tonight.<br /><br />God bless!Left-footerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18154175028539882422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-31592044665441180472015-10-28T08:45:32.131+00:002015-10-28T08:45:32.131+00:00At the risk of getting Fr H in trouble with whatev...At the risk of getting Fr H in trouble with whatever ecclesiastical inquisitor who, in the spirit of mercy, keeps a close eye on his combox: I think we're going to have to admit that the pope is at his most infallible when he keeps his mouth firmly shut. Vatican I may have tried to tightly circumscribe infallibility, but what we see these days is the inevitable result of 'infallibility Tony Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10862727279147129707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-29955968128494225452015-10-28T00:44:00.866+00:002015-10-28T00:44:00.866+00:00Very good.
Very good. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16639106772091709409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-83806250506040135552015-10-28T00:01:40.088+00:002015-10-28T00:01:40.088+00:00I have no doubt that Doctrine will not be changed ...I have no doubt that Doctrine will not be changed but that practise certainly will be. There will be priests who will uphold Doctrine but in the name of "pastoral sensitivity" will give Holy Communion to the divorced and civilly remarried and to those who are actively homosexual. There will be bishops who will let their priests know that "pastoral sensitivity" is to be Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16780292617648919766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-54427199614984737182015-10-27T22:33:20.682+00:002015-10-27T22:33:20.682+00:00Thank you, Father, for these consolations. But are...Thank you, Father, for these consolations. But are they based on the premise that an occupant of the See of Peter has the intelligence and is well-enough advised to understand that by undermining a Predecessor's magisterium he undermines his own? I suspect this is an optimistic view ...The Saint Bede Studiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02694483852852112838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-16206086649013336302015-10-27T21:03:51.210+00:002015-10-27T21:03:51.210+00:00Well put as ever, Father. What is tragic, and ulti...Well put as ever, Father. What is tragic, and ultimately terrifying, is that many Catholics are abysmally ignorant of the Faith and do not give a boo about theological precisions. <br /><br />In this media-driven age of instant dissemination and Rohrschach analysis, the Pope is the fellow in white that the viewing audience sees on the BBC or SKY or France 24 and propounds what the presenters (Liam Ronanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01376666519733160167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-15482900376433158222015-10-27T17:30:09.947+00:002015-10-27T17:30:09.947+00:00"...no pope in his right mind is going to be ..."...no pope in his right mind is going to be stupid enough to cut through the bough that he is himself sitting on."<br /><br />I hate to disagree with you Father, but if a pope decided to undermine the edifice of Catholic Doctrine, and to undermine and destroy the Church, that is exactly what he *would* do, knowing it would sow confusion and unbelief about the basis of that doctrine. Fr. Michael LaRuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04824777871450270095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-13233979529795604232015-10-27T17:06:03.998+00:002015-10-27T17:06:03.998+00:00Thank you, Father.
It is very weird that we, who ...Thank you, Father.<br /><br />It is very weird that we, who are seeing the "bastions" of the past razed right and left, are hearing from the "razers" that the present pope is going to make changes that can never be undone and act as if he will live forever.<br /><br />They never heard the cry, "The king is dead; long live the king"?<br /><br />What are they going to DJRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028761850444888285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-6063958825834152502015-10-27T14:43:37.346+00:002015-10-27T14:43:37.346+00:00The next pontificate? Isn't this current ponti...The next pontificate? Isn't this current pontificate the last one (according to St. Malachi's prophecy)?Pulexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13164993172745639593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-76747613228515317082015-10-27T14:35:02.569+00:002015-10-27T14:35:02.569+00:00"no pope in his right mind is going to be stu..."no pope in his right mind is going to be stupid enough to cut through the bough that he is himself sitting on."<br /><br />Agreed. However, "right mind" is the operative qualifier here. I have seldom come across a modernist who is in his right mind - the basic failure to grasp the law of non-contradiction being a common symptom of this fact.Deacon Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549825303646357455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-18061796572634929062015-10-27T13:40:30.689+00:002015-10-27T13:40:30.689+00:00I take it that what Pope Francis wrote in ‘Laudato...I take it that what Pope Francis wrote in ‘Laudato Si’ about climate change is not binding on any future Pope. We’re already in big trouble as a result of what Pope Francis has said on the subject. I hope that it won’t be long before a future Pope apologises for what the Church has been saying on the subject.Highland Cathedralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07519428794618769856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-72358732783917811512015-10-27T13:15:02.457+00:002015-10-27T13:15:02.457+00:00Yes, Father, but creating, cultivating and perpetu...Yes, Father, but creating, cultivating and perpetuating an environment in which "pastoral" practice is steadily allowed to undermine doctrine ....?TomGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13820093390599273051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-33248107818665680752015-10-27T09:39:14.010+00:002015-10-27T09:39:14.010+00:00If Pope Clement XXV, in his merely authentic teach...If Pope Clement XXV, in his merely authentic teaching wanders from the truth, Innocent XXV teaching *bindingly* can correct him.<br /><br />According to his Catechismo magiore, St Pius X taught that the Pope is infallible ONLY (soltanto) when he teaches ex cathedra, fulfilling the four conditions of Pastor aeternus.Fr PJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597780307057121375noreply@blogger.com