tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post4502913532630628064..comments2024-03-29T09:39:50.604+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Ultraultraultramontanist ultraultraultrapapalists againFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-10107543689723599562015-10-25T01:38:36.861+00:002015-10-25T01:38:36.861+00:00Wuerl's comments about Francis are nothing new...Wuerl's comments about Francis are nothing new. When Charles Chaput was the archbishop of Denver, he had the audacity to criticize Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia's legitimate skepticism about JPII's arbitrary, revisionist stance on capital punishment in "First Things" magazine thus:<br /><br />"When Catholic Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia publicly disputes Joseph D'Hippolitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571554907399914529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-33129095148095969212015-10-23T03:38:29.805+01:002015-10-23T03:38:29.805+01:00Dear Father Hunwicke,
Greetings in the Lord and i...Dear Father Hunwicke,<br /><br />Greetings in the Lord and in the name of Pope St John Paul II.<br /><br />Dear Father, your point is very well taken and one you have made masterfully several times on this blog. However, this time your fervour may have run ahead of plain reading. It seems to me that it would only be fair to give Cardinal Wuerl the benefit of the doubt here. At least with the bitBen of the Bayouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07300583569226801488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-9441552966199773252015-10-23T01:48:56.673+01:002015-10-23T01:48:56.673+01:00Is there any real, actual proof that the Pope agre...Is there any real, actual proof that the Pope agrees with him? Strictly speaking, I'm not sure that it would matter, but nothing that the Pope has actually said or done makes me think that he does.John H. Graneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07217298274393450604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-91642135264533785222015-10-23T01:24:09.163+01:002015-10-23T01:24:09.163+01:00Read the articles at donaldwuerl.com, the cardinal...Read the articles at donaldwuerl.com, the cardinal is one who has nothing but contempt for our Lord and the Catholic faith.Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09190709335203893977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-27920674953244574222015-10-23T01:05:59.100+01:002015-10-23T01:05:59.100+01:00In a funeral scandal of some years ago, Cardinal W...In a funeral scandal of some years ago, Cardinal Wuerl threw Father Guarnizo under the bus and sided with an admitted Buddhist lesbian. He represents everything that is wrong with the episcopate in the U.S. <br /><br />It can't be too soon for Wuerl's generation, including all the grey-haired "nuns," to go to their eternal reward so that actual Catholics can rebuild what he DJRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028761850444888285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-33641883273042839482015-10-22T22:27:45.669+01:002015-10-22T22:27:45.669+01:00"Some Cardinal called Wuerl"
PAPA'S..."Some Cardinal called Wuerl"<br /><br />PAPA'S<br />BIRDS<br /><br />Fool me once,<br />Shame on you,<br />Your red birds<br />Strut with bravada.<br /><br />Like birds of a feather<br />Flocking together -<br />As if the Barque...<br />A regatta.<br /><br />Fool me twice,<br />Shame on me,<br />Your pink bird<br />Weurls & twirls...<br /><br />Our pearls before swine -<br />Long-Skirtshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791967605782446951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-17440821024778571932015-10-22T20:14:28.169+01:002015-10-22T20:14:28.169+01:00That kind of attitude strikes me as sheer careeris...That kind of attitude strikes me as sheer careerism, nothing more nor less. Like the Vicar of Bray, they want to hold on to position, privilege and power, so they twist and turn with every wind of change from those above them. I was taught by sound and holy priests that we didn't need to ring the pope up every morning to know what the Catholic faith is. <br /><br />As for "twisting the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-58600097234739681622015-10-22T17:53:35.791+01:002015-10-22T17:53:35.791+01:00At the Synod press conference on 14 October, one o...At the Synod press conference on 14 October, one of the English speaking bishops had this to say: <br /><br /><i>“I think it is this interplay between the proper responsibilities of bishops to listen and attend to the proper experiences of their Churches, and to bring it here; and the proper responsibility of the Bishop of Rome to give voice in a definitive way to what emerges to be the core and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-39840599311200512192015-10-22T17:51:57.865+01:002015-10-22T17:51:57.865+01:00Yes follow the Pope Cardinal Wuerl, unless he says...Yes follow the Pope Cardinal Wuerl, unless he says don't give communion to politicians who support abortion and other teachings contrary to the Faith. Equiti Albo Crucishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18410137254315237608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-32418491933147036302015-10-22T17:33:22.827+01:002015-10-22T17:33:22.827+01:00Cardinal Donald WUERL appears to want to DEMONIZE ...Cardinal Donald WUERL appears to want to DEMONIZE - Faithful Catholics who care about Christ's Church, and the Saving of Souls.<br />.<br />He is trying to divide and conquer, by pitting us against the Pope.<br />.<br />ALL faithful Catholics are required to adhere to Sacred Scripture (a Catholic Bible),<br />and the Doctrine of the Faith which is contained in the "Catechism of the ANNEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01076691442800121428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-34354303470182214022015-10-22T17:04:36.210+01:002015-10-22T17:04:36.210+01:00"are you you would still believe it yourself ..."are you you would still believe it yourself if some future ultra-regressive pope started 'binding' all sorts of things you yourself didn't think ought to be bound?"<br /><br /><br />Or, why didn't you go along with Pope Benedict XVI, Pope St. John Paul II...franciscanhobbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00554059269260449545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-44104363717367061912015-10-22T17:00:01.577+01:002015-10-22T17:00:01.577+01:00As the Marines say, "Oorah!"
That would...As the Marines say, "Oorah!"<br /><br />That would be the United States Marines, Father. I've no idea what the RM would say.Ed Ahlsen-Girardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15504985467612049862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-22231263595064853452015-10-22T16:51:06.209+01:002015-10-22T16:51:06.209+01:00The travesty Fr H outlines is precisely the Jack-i...The travesty Fr H outlines is precisely the Jack-in-the-Box trick that my nonconformist kith and kin accuse the Church of holding. I spent many years as an Anglo-Papalist studiously disabusing them. Now the princes of the Church are endorsing the same caricature. I wonder how robust the Ordinaries of our little groups will be in standing up for the actual Catholic tradition. Another trial to austinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05353043674005221535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-2945553265752509552015-10-22T15:45:30.489+01:002015-10-22T15:45:30.489+01:00You are completely right, Father. As a former Luth...You are completely right, Father. As a former Lutheran, I well understand any concerns re. taking a Pope for an oracle or living voice of Christ the Lord, what he is not. But Francis himself is well Aware that he is not part of the Trinity, I guess, so we do not have to worry too much. A Cardinal Wuerl is not, either. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-89524888965272416682015-10-22T15:22:44.210+01:002015-10-22T15:22:44.210+01:00As the Marines say, "Oorah!", Fr. Hunwic...As the Marines say, "Oorah!", Fr. Hunwicke! You have made a direct hit here. The politics of convenience is at work. It is manipulation, using words, and not one thing more. Move the masses this way when you want them to believe this, and switch and move it that way when you do not. Were we to enjoy a pope in the future whose worldview differed from Cardinal Wuerl (please God) he Evangelinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12795851343763536594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-89020797967406943862015-10-22T15:06:08.804+01:002015-10-22T15:06:08.804+01:00Would it be cynical to suspect that the Wuerl Dogm...<i>Would it be cynical to suspect that the Wuerl Dogma is a convenient and plausible mantra to shout from the rooftops so as to shut other people up when one agrees with a pope, but a principle one quietly buries if one doesn't?</i><br /><br />Wuerl, as archbishop of Washington DC, refused to deny Holy Communion to rabidly pro-abortion politicians who publicly, and with media present, make a jasoncpettyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11357441841842897534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-22337699640889377002015-10-22T14:27:35.509+01:002015-10-22T14:27:35.509+01:00No, this Eastern Orthodox left Roman Catholicism i...No, this Eastern Orthodox left Roman Catholicism in the 1980s and certainly finds no reason to be attracted to it now....Rather, why don't you find yourself attracted to Orthodoxy, which has the advantage of . . . Orthodoxy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14035162506462553288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-5624720930280500112015-10-22T13:20:04.900+01:002015-10-22T13:20:04.900+01:00DUH!
It was obvious and I should have seen it. So...DUH!<br /><br />It was obvious and I should have seen it. Sorry. I will now<br />sift through my own web site and carefully add an "S" to<br />all the places where I claim to be "faithful to the Pope".<br />Yes, faithful to the Pope<b>s</b>! I love it!www.inquisition.cahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17646606229997692731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-47089208929972218642015-10-22T13:02:10.437+01:002015-10-22T13:02:10.437+01:00The latin text of Laudato Si' is available in ...The latin text of Laudato Si' is available in Latin at http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/la/encyclicals/documents/papa-francesco_20150524_enciclica-laudato-si.html. What is more, the pope refers to himself as "We' in the text.<br />Father, could you please elaborate more on what suggests that the Encyclical is not of Magisterial status?<br />wywialmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10839436531140017459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-74606835799925571552015-10-22T12:18:29.297+01:002015-10-22T12:18:29.297+01:00Over recent decades I have been amazed when priest...Over recent decades I have been amazed when priests have spouted things that are illogical, un-theological, plainly wrong-headed, bordering on - or actually - heretical. Don’t they know better? I asked. Haven’t they studied philosophy and theology? Are they not educated men?<br /><br />It used to be that for appointment to the episcopacy an advanced degree was a prerequisite, such that priests ‘GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-65804130778298298262015-10-22T12:15:39.365+01:002015-10-22T12:15:39.365+01:00My dear Father
Most Catholic bishops are very loy...My dear Father<br /><br />Most Catholic bishops are very loyal to their superiors. That is a very commendable thing, of course. But it can have the danger (I am not, of course, saying this ever happens) of making them company men. They serve loyally, they get preferment. They expect the same loyalty from those under them. Sadly few are Oxford men. Rather they are more like old fashioned army Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-31867471576831107712015-10-22T11:32:50.496+01:002015-10-22T11:32:50.496+01:00In the liturgical rite of the Reception into Full ...In the liturgical rite of the Reception into Full Communion of an already baptized non-Catholic Christian, the convert, after praying the Creed with all present adds: "I believe everything that the Holy, Catholic Church believes, teaches and proclaims to be revealed by God." He does not say "I believe everything which the pope of today teaches, thinks and mentions in interviews on Fr PJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597780307057121375noreply@blogger.com