tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post3897723102220677334..comments2024-03-29T09:39:50.604+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Who is entitled to use the Pope Francis Missal?Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-16872658553754192542015-12-13T00:58:02.545+00:002015-12-13T00:58:02.545+00:00Re Pope Francis, oh if only you were right, but I ...Re Pope Francis, oh if only you were right, but I don't think so.Kathleen1031https://www.blogger.com/profile/10201084623185206141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-29366913914356187862015-12-11T17:16:20.522+00:002015-12-11T17:16:20.522+00:00Ansgerus, I'm not at all sure whether, and i...Ansgerus, I'm not at all sure whether, and if so at what stages in his recent career, Bishop Williamson has actually been in full communion! It's all a bit bit confusing. daldredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536691352877083778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-65710445830554913782015-12-11T16:12:21.397+00:002015-12-11T16:12:21.397+00:00David, thank you for the Quote. maybe Bishop Willi...David, thank you for the Quote. maybe Bishop Williamson doesn't know yet that he became a member of the Ordinariate after having been expelled from the SSPX. Shouldn't we tell him? This might be an advantage when trying to visit f.i. Germany or Sweden. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-6860650911142765372015-12-11T08:31:14.108+00:002015-12-11T08:31:14.108+00:00Mr Leahy, you are generous in your interpretation,...Mr Leahy, you are generous in your interpretation, and may be right. Catholic Left-wingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829264770790693322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-91071346439861765362015-12-11T07:39:57.752+00:002015-12-11T07:39:57.752+00:00How extraordinarily ablist of you, Father, to assu...How extraordinarily ablist of you, Father, to assume only people who possess feet can have them washed on Maundy Thursday!<br />The Church needs to start being more inclusive and accepting of cripples and amputees!A. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05950960573514452474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-50192705006280276662015-12-11T07:39:24.735+00:002015-12-11T07:39:24.735+00:00Thanks, David. I had not read the Decree of Erecti...Thanks, David. I had not read the Decree of Erection. The part you highlight is most interesting; but I wonder if, after all, it is mainly descriptive in general terms, of what the Ordinariate is for, rather than a statement of eligibility per se. The Ordinariate website section “Join Us” seems couched in restrictive terms - those who are not already Catholics; and Fr Zuhlsdorf has an interestingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-40159969642917036762015-12-10T17:45:14.534+00:002015-12-10T17:45:14.534+00:00Anthony Munday: I'm not sure you're right,...Anthony Munday: I'm not sure you're right, but I do stress the uncertainty.<br /><br />The Decree of erection of the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham actually states:<br /><br />"1. The Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham ipso iure possesses juridic personality and is juridically equivalent to a diocese. <b>It includes those faithful, of every category and state of daldredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536691352877083778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-61107275250504577042015-12-10T15:40:17.501+00:002015-12-10T15:40:17.501+00:00Oh and what about e-anglican converts who converte...Oh and what about e-anglican converts who converted before the whole Ordinariate Thing got off the ground and are now priests???? Is that enough "anglican-ness" to be able to use the new Missal, even if there are no lay ex-anglicans in the area.... which is my case....!?? <br /><br />Fr. RaphaelPater Raphaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700187664220391134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-51232199182480191812015-12-10T10:11:13.122+00:002015-12-10T10:11:13.122+00:00So, we have a deviation between the rule and the p...So, we have a deviation between the rule and the practice. It is clear that the former excludes those who are already fully-accredited Catholics, and that (per the CDF) one may not join a personal ordinariate for reasons of personal preference. <br /><br />Anyway, if I wish to join - and I might just - my own Anglican bona fides are a bit weak - “christened” at the parish, and when I had myAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-42178652328727157082015-12-09T23:00:26.596+00:002015-12-09T23:00:26.596+00:00David Aldred; any former Anglican Roman Catholic s...David Aldred; any former Anglican Roman Catholic should simply apply for admission to the OOLW by contacting his nearest Ordinariate priest who will forward his request to the office of the Ordinary. There seems to be no bar in practice to a transfer from diocesan jurisdiction. JKHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03226966266368771162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-8777216875335478252015-12-09T19:42:33.784+00:002015-12-09T19:42:33.784+00:00Unlike "Catholic Left-winger", I detect ...Unlike "Catholic Left-winger", I detect little in terms of digs at Pope Francis. On the contrary, Father Hunwicke advises us to be prepared for a surprise (our God, after all, is One of surprises). I have a hunch Father is right.Michael Leahyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15044897013849386271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-19780120146409395402015-12-09T17:17:25.111+00:002015-12-09T17:17:25.111+00:00There is something of Francis Urquhart in your LHF...There is something of Francis Urquhart in your LHF, Father, as in: “You might very well think that. I couldn’t possibly comment.”<br /><br />Though, unlike the would-be PM, I’m sure it is inspired more by playful mischievousness than political malevolence.GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-53614616548694225432015-12-09T16:47:12.371+00:002015-12-09T16:47:12.371+00:00...Throne of Moses...
I LOL'd. Too good....<i>Throne of Moses</i>...<br /><br />I LOL'd. Too good. jasoncpettyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11357441841842897534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-40044843540152671522015-12-09T15:51:23.040+00:002015-12-09T15:51:23.040+00:00(1) Either; (2) Yes; (3) Yes and sotto.(1) Either; (2) Yes; (3) Yes and sotto.Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-86784091749304348012015-12-09T15:18:11.159+00:002015-12-09T15:18:11.159+00:00A few Missal questions, Father, if you don't m...A few Missal questions, Father, if you don't mind.<br /><br />1) Who is allowed to say the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar? I've seen it done where the entire congregation says the acolyte's responses, to great effect. Is it permitted in the Missal?<br /><br />2) Does the Ordinary include the Secret prayers, said after the Orate Fratres? <br /><br />3) I know the Missal contains the RSC+https://www.blogger.com/profile/00639369749327986414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-4756721531372117122015-12-09T13:47:28.326+00:002015-12-09T13:47:28.326+00:00A good post, that turns into a dig at the Pope. Wh...A good post, that turns into a dig at the Pope. Why can't you stop at the good advice on celebrating the Ordimariate Missal?Catholic Left-wingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829264770790693322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-76033817267604386162015-12-09T13:09:47.385+00:002015-12-09T13:09:47.385+00:00"Just imagine it....." A delectatio moro..."Just imagine it....." A delectatio morosa of epic proportion! Best chuckle I've had in a very long time. BRAVO!Longinushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17349877149440766708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-51073372160958149932015-12-09T13:07:52.631+00:002015-12-09T13:07:52.631+00:00"...just one ex-Anglican, even if he/she ente...<i>"...just one ex-Anglican, even if he/she entered into Full Communion decades ago, can transfer to the Ordinariate"</i><br /><br />Father, is there a defined method for doing this? <br /><br />The Ordinariate website only refers to those "<i>Anglicans and former Anglicans who ... are eligible to seek to enter the full communion of the Catholic Church through the Personal daldredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536691352877083778noreply@blogger.com