tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post2998762055529539772..comments2024-03-27T17:29:51.954+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Idolatry?Fr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-47793627784582802772015-09-18T22:52:12.192+01:002015-09-18T22:52:12.192+01:00H: Mgr Knox was not referring to Extreme Unction b...H: Mgr Knox was not referring to Extreme Unction being administered to someone not in danger of death, but to the former (and I would say laudable) practice of adminstering the Sacrament to a person who has just (apparently) died before a priest could reach him on the grounds that life might seem to be extinct but actually not completely so - generally up to two or three hours after apparent Sue Simshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05976537787708670241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-10786510132977163632015-09-18T11:55:16.418+01:002015-09-18T11:55:16.418+01:00No; Bishop Leonard was not consecrated with the pr...No; Bishop Leonard was not consecrated with the presence of a Dutch bishop; and, as my piece above makes very clear, the judgement passed by the CDF related only to his presbyteral ordination (I do so so so wish people would read what I write before they dash to comment!!). Bishop Leonard was convinced that the reason why Rome did not consider the validity of his episcopal consecration was an Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-32966452713572321892015-09-18T11:40:04.407+01:002015-09-18T11:40:04.407+01:00Perusing the text of Apostolicae curae one definit...Perusing the text of <i>Apostolicae curae</i> one definitely gets the impression that the recipient of the 'Dutch touch' (i.e. ordained by an Old Catholic bishop using the Old Catholic liturgical books) cannot transmit this same 'touch' to another person using the Anglican books (those Edwardian with or without later amendments). This is why the Catholic Church investigates each Pulexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13164993172745639593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-55041124492317046502015-09-17T21:10:58.631+01:002015-09-17T21:10:58.631+01:00" priest who conditionally administers Extrem..." priest who conditionally administers Extreme Unction when it is uncertain whether life survives is in danger of profaning the Sacrament"<br /><br />Here (Argentina), Extreme Unction has been renamed to Unction of the Sick and it is given to people who is just old or sick, even if they are not under reasonable risk of death.Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05552849591085771057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-81573914278290752372015-09-17T17:20:06.771+01:002015-09-17T17:20:06.771+01:00While I take your point, Father, that morally one ...While I take your point, Father, that morally one *could* conditionally adore such a putative Eucharist if one were so inclined, it seems to me that a larger hurdle must be overcome before concluding that one *should* do so. After all, the operative presumption, as expressed by your quotations in the post, is of *in*validity, which invalidity is nonetheless uncertain enough as to recommend Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-59120765100787555502015-09-17T13:50:14.919+01:002015-09-17T13:50:14.919+01:00This is the sort of clear, supremely helpful comme...This is the sort of clear, supremely helpful comment that makes your blog an essential daily read for many of us.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15068840602443958297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-68340751314464444412015-09-17T11:33:17.833+01:002015-09-17T11:33:17.833+01:00I am relieved to learn this - this was in fact jus...I am relieved to learn this - this was in fact just my thinking, dating back to University days, when having a look around a few Anglican churches out of curiosity.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17387698013828199070noreply@blogger.com