tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post2264621744294517673..comments2024-03-28T14:19:53.973+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Query UPDATEFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-17594702404073416562018-01-03T19:17:13.678+00:002018-01-03T19:17:13.678+00:00Ahem.Father, you may well be right that S Damasus ...Ahem.Father, you may well be right that S Damasus tried to suppress the Lupercalia, and the Emperor Gratian banned pagan celebrations in Rome soon after Damasus death. But it did not have full effect, since a century later S Galsius was trying again.<br />>>:- the senate protested that the Lupercalia was essential to Rome's safety and well-being. This prompted Gelasius' scornful E sapelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09886268559214926797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-55205235940446586502018-01-03T17:10:31.822+00:002018-01-03T17:10:31.822+00:00Clumsy error!
In my last post I should have writt...Clumsy error!<br /><br />In my last post I should have written -<br /><br />"The Medieval Boy Bishops", Neil Mackenzie, Matador, 2011. ISBN 9781780880082 (1st edition)<br />neilmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15233733837705102624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-24590406755183576962018-01-03T15:15:22.354+00:002018-01-03T15:15:22.354+00:00Regarding Libanius' edition, there is an Engli...Regarding Libanius' edition, there is an English translation in the journal Archiv für Religionsgeschichte, Volume 13, Issue 1 (it is titled Appendix: Libanios, Oration IX: On the Kalends). It is behind a paywall, though, €30 for its 5 pages! https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/afgs.2012.13.issue-1/afgs.2012.205/afgs.2012.205.xml<br /><br />There seems to be a French translation (Les Belles Ivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14280337791464054428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-35810286708918969472018-01-03T12:30:36.121+00:002018-01-03T12:30:36.121+00:00I think that Chrysologos was referring to the Feas...I think that Chrysologos was referring to the Feast of Fools.<br /><br />The best account of the Feast Fools that I have encountered is "Sacred Folly", Max Harris, Cornell University Press, 2011.<br /><br />The whole subject is quite complicated, especially as Harris argues that a faction (of zealots?) in the Middle Ages, being determined to suppress it, waged what we might now call a neilmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15233733837705102624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-88789298123664775332018-01-02T16:09:22.651+00:002018-01-02T16:09:22.651+00:00Another note, related to this, in the Migne Patrol...Another note, related to this, in the Migne Patrologia Latina mentions the Fourth Council of Toledo which mandated that “prima die Januarii Alleluia non cantetur, et abstinentia a carnibus servetur, ut nihil Christianis cum superstitione Gentilium commune sit.”<br /><br />Imagine that: abstinence on the 1st of January so that Christians won’t have anything in common with popular superstitions.Andreas Meszaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08427763145710882785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-92152885567113517632018-01-02T15:04:10.628+00:002018-01-02T15:04:10.628+00:00Heh! Now I get to mention my friend Roger Pearse a...Heh! Now I get to mention my friend Roger Pearse again!<br /><br />Mischa Hooker translated "On the Roman Months" by John the Lydian. The section on the Kalends of January begins at Book 4, 3. Nothing about masks.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog/2017/12/21/john-the-lydian-on-the-roman-months-version-2-0-now-online/" rel="nofollow">Here are the links</a> to his Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-74283785728015167142018-01-02T14:01:24.352+00:002018-01-02T14:01:24.352+00:00Pater: Looks like you are referring to Sermo 155 “...Pater: Looks like you are referring to Sermo 155 “De kalendis Januarii quae varia gentium superstitione polluebantur”. A note in the text mentions that “profanorum ludorum consuetudo erat pecudum assumptis formis huc illucque discursare et petulantius se gerere.” Other authors (Augustinus, Prudentius, Ambrosius) wrote against the custom.Andreas Meszaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08427763145710882785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-34586748815148994442018-01-01T13:38:24.380+00:002018-01-01T13:38:24.380+00:00Wouldn't Guerangercomment?Wouldn't Guerangercomment?Fr PJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597780307057121375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-74274981687429314272018-01-01T11:33:36.568+00:002018-01-01T11:33:36.568+00:00You might find help in M. Meslin La fête des kalen...You might find help in M. Meslin La fête des kalendes de janvier dans l'empire romain (Collection Latomus 115, 1970). Libanius Oration IX defends the festival - despite it being Roman rather than Greek in origin.Oliver Nicholsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07187098939500953848noreply@blogger.com