tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post1623517486507230832..comments2024-03-29T01:24:45.251+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: Lombardi boobs againFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-24056985218623382052016-08-26T15:02:35.635+01:002016-08-26T15:02:35.635+01:00Because the eldest son of the Duke of Pall uses hi...Because the eldest son of the Duke of Pall uses his father's subsidiary title by courtesy he would be styled Earl of Pall. The definite article is only for a substantive title. Lord Pall's eldest son would be Lord Purificator.Anon.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02799308344668312781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-61221179689957251512016-08-26T14:59:29.977+01:002016-08-26T14:59:29.977+01:00Because the eldest son of the Duke of Chalice uses...Because the eldest son of the Duke of Chalice uses his father's subsidiary title by courtesy he would be styled Earl of Pall. The definite article is only for a substantive title. Lord Pall's son would be Lord Purificator.Anon.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02799308344668312781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-59945709657441015992015-04-20T16:00:58.751+01:002015-04-20T16:00:58.751+01:00Since 13th June 1987, Princess Anne's formal s...Since 13th June 1987, Princess Anne's formal style is Her Royal Highness The Princess Royal. Before that she was HRH The Princess Anne, Mrs Mark Phillips.motupropriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261356560114077508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-63751953910120947962015-04-20T15:56:57.932+01:002015-04-20T15:56:57.932+01:00Not so fast Mr Hicks, Princess Helena (the third d...Not so fast Mr Hicks, Princess Helena (the third daughter and fifth child of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert) was certainly a princess in her own right, but after her marriage to Prince Christian of Schleswig-Holstein became Princess Christian. After divorce "Princess" Diana became Diana, Princess of Wales, before that she was simply HRH The Princess of Wales, and by convention signed motupropriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261356560114077508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-42665064142575530102015-04-19T17:27:59.829+01:002015-04-19T17:27:59.829+01:00With Princess Michael, though, it is because she i...With Princess Michael, though, it is because she is not a princess in her own right. The Princess of Wales was often known as Princess Diana but that is wholly incorrect; she was, before the divorce, Princess Charles.<br /><br />Princess Anne, on the other hand, is a princess in her own right and so is called that.Jacob Hickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435082163759225318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-64435882019750672692015-04-19T17:11:27.518+01:002015-04-19T17:11:27.518+01:00Thanks Alan, I realised about the hyphenation afte...Thanks Alan, I realised about the hyphenation after posting. The best George Brown story remains the apocryphal encounter with the Cardinal Archbishop of Lima.motupropriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261356560114077508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-79509409333580658782015-04-18T23:26:05.426+01:002015-04-18T23:26:05.426+01:00A bit harsh on Lombards, I think, Father. I'm ...A bit harsh on Lombards, I think, Father. I'm sure you meet some thoroughly likable ones during your liturgical excursions to the diocese of Brescia!<br /><br />Note to Motuproprio: what George Brown actually did was to become the hyphenated Lord George-Brown. One of his greater claims to fame, of course, was the lawsuit which gave so much clout to the old claim that all the best libels are Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16365402242052425654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-88647815541169118852015-04-18T15:39:47.773+01:002015-04-18T15:39:47.773+01:00It is still customary in formal invitations to add...It is still customary in formal invitations to address a married woman by her husband's name, thus Fr and Mrs John Hunwicke. I am sure there are those who still adhere to the correct form of address and send letters to Mrs John Hunwicke.motupropriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261356560114077508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-6202318806561543772015-04-18T08:01:54.310+01:002015-04-18T08:01:54.310+01:00Aw, leave poor old Fr. Lombardi alone. He's a ...Aw, leave poor old Fr. Lombardi alone. He's a math teacher. Seriously. That's his actual profession. And somehow he got stuck with this hopeless, awful, impossible job that I'll bet he really hates, where no one inside tells him anything but he still has to answer emails from journalists all day. Would you want to answer emails from journalists? Me neither.Hilary Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13122934207139310595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-8390873997607533522015-04-17T21:11:33.001+01:002015-04-17T21:11:33.001+01:00As an admirer of the Dorothy L Sayers detective st...As an admirer of the Dorothy L Sayers detective stories, I thank you for this explanation of how Lord Peter Wimsey got to be so addressed.<br /><br />How does it come about that certain wives of the nobility, for example that of Lord Peter above, have to be addressed by their husband's Christian names and not by their own? Why Princess <i>Michael</i> of Kent?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-80416101345294996972015-04-17T20:48:10.359+01:002015-04-17T20:48:10.359+01:00or "Vincent Cardinal Nichols", my good E...or "Vincent Cardinal Nichols", my good Eccles? It's even in the famous formula for announcing a new Papam quem Habemus, "Emsm ac Revsm N. SRE Cardinalem NN., qui sibi nomen imposuit..." so every good churchman should be used to the shape already. No?Belfry Bathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00514867101036143597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-2907842998353742982015-04-17T16:28:11.813+01:002015-04-17T16:28:11.813+01:00I'm glad you do not like the cut of Fr Rosica&...I'm glad you do not like the cut of Fr Rosica's jib. He now seems to have cut his own sails down to avoid a shipwreck after he inadvertently drummed up worldwide support for the obscure Canadian blogger he was trying to close down.FrereRabithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11164077376680047600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-78291601786881282432015-04-17T15:52:57.835+01:002015-04-17T15:52:57.835+01:00'How about "Christopher, Lord Patten"...'How about "Christopher, Lord Patten" as in "Alfred, Lord Tennyson"?'<br /><br />Won't do (if a Yank may opine) because Tennyson was a genuine nobleman, a baron, whereas Patten is but a life peer.William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634494183165592707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-2126323761227935542015-04-17T11:40:08.889+01:002015-04-17T11:40:08.889+01:00When George Brown was elevated to a life peerage h...When George Brown was elevated to a life peerage he wanted to be called Lord George Brown. As I recall the heralds explained that he would first have to change his name to George George Brown, which I understand he did.<br />In these slapdash days even the BBC perpetrates the nomenclatural illiteracy to which you refer.motupropriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261356560114077508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-46060512932338841222015-04-17T11:31:59.681+01:002015-04-17T11:31:59.681+01:00How about "Christopher, Lord Patten" as ...How about "Christopher, Lord Patten" as in "Alfred, Lord Tennyson"?Eccleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00357168852208499013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-12787894075631986382015-04-17T11:14:29.267+01:002015-04-17T11:14:29.267+01:00Or the son of a Marquess, Father...Or the son of a Marquess, Father...Jacob Hickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435082163759225318noreply@blogger.com