tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post1106807161432009656..comments2024-03-18T20:38:40.751+00:00Comments on Fr Hunwicke's Mutual Enrichment: BULL OF INDICTION OF THE JUBILEE OF MERCYFr John Hunwickehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-62789803314276397962015-04-13T21:42:44.134+01:002015-04-13T21:42:44.134+01:00Document properties are usually not changed, so it...Document properties are usually not changed, so it could also mean simply that the document was typed up on Fr. Thomas' computer, or saved for the final time on it.<br /><br />But probably it's by him.Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-15169806274923576432015-04-12T12:49:02.049+01:002015-04-12T12:49:02.049+01:00Thank you, Father, for this wonderful post!Thank you, Father, for this wonderful post!Michael Ortizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12823627318269572922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-41050084123843289702015-04-11T20:22:42.763+01:002015-04-11T20:22:42.763+01:00Fr Thomas is CEO of CATEW: see http://www.catholic...Fr Thomas is CEO of CATEW: see http://www.catholic-ew.org.uk/Governance-and-Contact/Catholic-Trust-CaTEW/CaTEW-Trustees so is "responsible", in some sense, for publishing this.Ttonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185875893212146794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-72203174506337927972015-04-02T14:46:18.418+01:002015-04-02T14:46:18.418+01:00It's in his Commentary on John, when he gets t...It's in his Commentary on John, when he gets to the Pericope de adultera; I think, in volume 35 of Migne.<br /><br />Interesting about Fr Thomas. I wonder if it means that, as Top Bureaucrat, he takes responsibility for it, or that he actually wrote it. Does anybody know what the conventions are with regard to such emanations from the CBCEW?Fr John Hunwickehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766211573399409633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-22244682429646494442015-04-01T21:01:38.729+01:002015-04-01T21:01:38.729+01:00Fr., do you have a citation for your quote from St...Fr., do you have a citation for your quote from St. Augustine, please?<br /><br />Also re the anonymous "reflection" document. I have a .pdf copy of that document and when I open the "file properties" button, the "author" is shown to be one "Christopher Thomas" who I assume to be Fr Christopher P Thomas, General Secretary of the CBCEW. <br /><br />Now Deacon Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549825303646357455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-82212284553664653752015-04-01T19:35:13.728+01:002015-04-01T19:35:13.728+01:00The Via Dolorosa text for the papal service on Fri...The Via Dolorosa text for the papal service on Friday, availiable from the Catholic Herald, quotes from the Psalms, where the Psalmist links God’s mercy and truth. Matthew Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00958673318312786618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-18003453046227641232015-04-01T17:43:25.436+01:002015-04-01T17:43:25.436+01:00Nicholas Bellord: "But presumably my point i...Nicholas Bellord: "But presumably my point is valid that despite repenting their error they were not allowed to resume their full role in the Church."<br /><br />Yes, you are correct.William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634494183165592707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-22312914571292311652015-03-31T21:38:41.288+01:002015-03-31T21:38:41.288+01:00William Tighe: Many thanks for the correction. Bu...William Tighe: Many thanks for the correction. But presumably my point is valid that despite repenting their error they were not allowed to resume their full role in the Church. This contrasts with somebody in a second marriage without an annulment who is going to remain in an irregular adulterous union. <br /><br />I cannot believe that whoever wrote this document and knew about the Nicolas Bellordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08063019108964247676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-39779715614441009772015-03-31T19:18:56.182+01:002015-03-31T19:18:56.182+01:00Nicholas Bellord wrote:
"I may be wrong but ...Nicholas Bellord wrote:<br /><br />"I may be wrong but the point about the Donatists was that certain people had apostatised under persecution but they had then repented and done penance. Even so the Donatists would not allow them back into full communion. This is quite different from the position of someone in an adulterous marriage who has not repented."<br /><br />Actually, the view William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634494183165592707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-56602545448489854282015-03-31T11:55:08.274+01:002015-03-31T11:55:08.274+01:00I may be wrong but the point about the Donatists w...I may be wrong but the point about the Donatists was that certain people had apostatised under persecution but they had then repented and done penance. Even so the Donatists would not allow them back into full communion. This is quite different from the position of someone in an adulterous marriage who has not repented.Nicolas Bellordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08063019108964247676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-68087983005381374332015-03-31T01:32:13.641+01:002015-03-31T01:32:13.641+01:00". . . Worse, it appeared to me to be designe...". . . Worse, it appeared to me to be designed to advance strategically the theological opinion of Walter Kasper (contrary to the Magisterium as expressed by Benedict XVI)."<br /><br />Those type of theological opinions are precisely what Pope St. John Paul II contemplated when he promulgated his Apostolic Letter <a href="http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/motu_proprio/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08474622031247588124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-77172569902263883682015-03-30T19:19:32.747+01:002015-03-30T19:19:32.747+01:00Wouldn't St. Augustine's "Marriage an...Wouldn't St. Augustine's "Marriage and Concupiscence" be the more likely model for what he thought?<br /><br />"...when man and woman have been joined in marriage, they must continue inseparably for as long as they live... so that, as a living spouse with a living spouse, there is no divorce, no separation forever."<br /><br />"...between the living spouses, thereBansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-52373973482055188922015-03-30T16:09:51.722+01:002015-03-30T16:09:51.722+01:00The misuse of the "Donatist card" in thi...The misuse of the "Donatist card" in this matter has as its parallel the misuse of the "Novatianist card" as regards Canon 8 of the Council of Nicaea (a canon which deals with what is to be required of Novatianists who desire to be reconciled with the Church) by Cardinal Kasper in his screed *The Gospel of the Family* (pp. 31, 37). Cardinal Kasper has an amusing penchant for William Tighehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634494183165592707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-57429897457867216222015-03-30T14:25:19.030+01:002015-03-30T14:25:19.030+01:00The anonymous author?
Probably a Jesuit well imm...The anonymous author? <br /><br />Probably a Jesuit well immersed in "ressourcement" and Henri Bouillard ?<br /><br />The approach was well illustrated in Grumett, D. (2015). 'De Lubac, Grace, and the Pure Nature Debate'. Modern Theology, 31(1), 123–146Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09216619732353177072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-41065183095708507032015-03-30T13:31:26.493+01:002015-03-30T13:31:26.493+01:00Ah,St Augustine and Donatists.A conundrum.On the o...Ah,St Augustine and Donatists.A conundrum.On the one hand ,the great Doctor crushed the Donatistsconclusively....Securus iudicat orbis terrarum.That is that.But....Roma locuta est,causa finita est.Now that is tricky if Roma do locuta as some fear. Father H?El Codohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02608531384524240525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-70640057577861451892014-12-30T18:05:25.633+00:002014-12-30T18:05:25.633+00:00Since the 1960s there has been a sense that everyt...Since the 1960s there has been a sense that everything is ‘OK’; that one should not worry; that it is fine to be different; that we are all in the same boat - and it is the Good Ship, Lollipop (okay, that was the 1930s but was, perhaps, prescient…).<br /><br />We had come from the harsh God of the OT – a jealous God, prone to anger and retribution, but now that was all changed. Jesus came and nowGORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-51965779839487768222014-12-30T02:40:17.703+00:002014-12-30T02:40:17.703+00:00The anonymous writer also elides the fact that Don...The anonymous writer also elides the fact that Donatists were concerned with whether to readmit people who, under threat of loss of life or livelihood, had burned incense to worship Caesar, whereas modernists are concerned with whether to readmit people who voluntarily chase after greater sexual satisfaction, under no other threat than the possible experience of lesser satisfaction.Tamsinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01636532242553200576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-10056621529833007652014-12-29T17:31:58.965+00:002014-12-29T17:31:58.965+00:00That is from ep. Jo. tr. 33.6. Cf. this very help...That is from <i>ep. Jo. tr.</i> 33.6. Cf. this very helpful article from the <i>Augustinus-Lexikon,</i> on <i>ep. Jo. tr.</i> 7.8 (the famous "Dilige, et quod uis fac"): http://liberlocorumcommunium.blogspot.com/2010/06/dilige-et-quod-uis-fac-love-and-do-what.html.Steve Perishohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05422656717551961275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8940364093450837549.post-67693310880991720932014-12-29T17:08:58.413+00:002014-12-29T17:08:58.413+00:00Not to mention the fact that the first known perso...Not to mention the fact that the first <i>known</i> person to employ "Liberty in what is doubtful" (actually "non necessariis"), the bishop of Split, Marco Antonio De Dominis (writing in 1617), was himself something of a renegade, as considered from the Catholic (if not Anglican) point of view: http://liberlocorumcommunium.blogspot.com/2010/03/Steve Perishohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05422656717551961275noreply@blogger.com